3rd cycle

[livingthedream]

I am 29 yo. 6ft tall 228 lbs about 12%bf
I am just about to wrap up my test/tren/dbol cycle.

My next cycle I will be concentrating on leaning out/recomp.
My cycle idea is
1-12 test e 500mg
1-10 deca. 250mg
1-12 mast e 400 mg

And using the usually on cycle and pct

With the mast will I still need an ai.?
Any modifications you would make.
Thanks all

[redz]

Mast seems to reduce the amount of ai needed but still good to run one. How long you plan on taking off before cycling again?

[livingthedream]

Will be cutting it a little close but about 14 weeks. Is 250mg deca enough for joint lube. I am racing my dirtbike in harescrambles and cross country. Plus about 8 hours hard trail riding per week ontop of my training.
What's everyone's opinion on test suspension pre workouts to kick the cycle off

[Alinjr]

Will be cutting it a little close but about 14 weeks. Is 250mg deca enough for joint lube. I am racing my dirtbike in harescrambles and cross country. Plus about 8 hours hard trail riding per week ontop of my training.
What's everyone's opinion on test suspension pre workouts to kick the cycle off

It should but if it doesn't for you go higher.

[Papa Smurf]

I would loose the deca. I tried it at 250mg with my current cycle for joint relief (because im old) and it did nothing for me.

I would save it for next time

[austinite]

Yes, you need an AI. Don't attempt to allow Mast to fully do an AI's job. And that's a pretty low dose of mast. I would also drop the deca.

[livingthedream]

So
700 test
600 mast
0. Deca
30 mg dbol pre workout
.25 adex eod

Does this sound a little better?
Also why drop the deca too many compounds or excess water retention. I'm sure you have sound reasoning for your recommendation I just down want to blindly follow advise.
Thanks

[austinite]

So
700 test
600 mast
0. Deca
30 mg dbol pre workout
.25 adex eod

Does this sound a little better?
Also why drop the deca too many compounds or excess water retention. I'm sure you have sound reasoning for your recommendation I just down want to blindly follow advise.
Thanks

Whats your goal? Also can you provide your cycle history please?

[livingthedream]

I'm on my second cycle now of test 500 pw tren 400 pw 12 weeks. Great strength and size gains added about 25 lbs
First cycle was 500 test 500 eq. I was still racing and training for triathlon so didn't gain much size.
Goals for this cycle will be strength and cutting/ recomp. The last 4 weeks of the current cycle I have been leaning out and still seeing strength gains.

But like I said I will likely be on the verge of overtraining with all the trail riding plus weight training
Hence reason I thought deca would be a good choice The first thing I notice is elbow and wrist pain when training too much.

[austinite]

I'm on my second cycle now of test 500 pw tren 400 pw 12 weeks. Great strength and size gains added about 25 lbs
First cycle was 500 test 500 eq. I was still racing and training for triathlon so didn't gain much size.
Goals for this cycle will be strength and cutting/ recomp. The last 4 weeks of the current cycle I have been leaning out and still seeing strength gains.

But like I said I will likely be on the verge of overtraining with all the trail riding plus weight training
Hence reason I thought deca would be a good choice The first thing I notice is elbow and wrist pain when training too much.

Although your results are going to be diet related, I just don't see how Deca can be beneficial for you in this cycle. For me, it's never been a cutting-friendly compound. Mast is a great compound, especially when coupled with test. I only use deca nowadays is a very low dose for joint relief.

Your goal can be achieved without deca. If you keep deca, I think you will struggle fighting a battle.

[livingthedream]

Thanks for the explanation. The deca was just going to be for joint relief but if test seems to be doing well for me anyway. Deca is out.
Thanks all

I am so excited for this next one. I will be taking about 16-20 weeks off after that one hopefully.

[austinite]

Thanks for the explanation. The deca was just going to be for joint relief but if test seems to be doing well for me anyway. Deca is out.
Thanks all

I am so excited for this next one. I will be taking about 16-20 weeks off after that one hopefully.

I run 100 to 150/ew for joints. Good luck brother. Enjoy

[warmouth]

I run 100 to 150/ew for joints. Good luck brother. Enjoy

I love hearing your guys advice on compounds! It never gets old. Thanks austinite.