A good Sustanon Bulk Stack

[< <Samson> >]

I am planning out my next bulking cycle for the end of the year. Might as well do it early since getting quality gear doesn't seem too quick at times.

I already have plenty of quality sustanon on hand.

1. How long is it most beneficial to run?

2. What should I stack it with for the best bulking result?

That's about it.

I was thinking of just getting some deca but I haven't tried the tren yet. And I wanted to see how it goes first. Or possibly some tren enan.

[warmouth]

I am planning out my next bulking cycle for the end of the year. Might as well do it early since getting quality gear doesn't seem too quick at times.

I already have plenty of quality sustanon on hand.

1. How long is it most beneficial to run?

2. What should I stack it with for the best bulking result?

That's about it.

I was thinking of just getting some deca but I haven't tried the tren yet. And I wanted to see how it goes first. Or possibly some tren enan.

Have you tried deca before samson?

[Turkish Juicer]

- 12 weeks is a good duration for Sustanon cycles.

- I would recommend you experiment with Deca first before jumping on the Tren wagon.

[warmouth]

I was wondering about the deca for that reason too TJ. Nandrolone is a great compound samson. Probably not the best for bulking, so to speak, but I'm loving it. Nothing side effects wise yet, which is only making my future decision to use tren that much easier.

[< <Samson> >]

I will be running a low tren and prop cycle next. This one will be the one following the tren cycle(about 6-8 months later).

[warmouth]

I will be running a low tren and prop cycle next. This one will be the one following the tren cycle(about 6-8 months later).

So tren before nandro?

[< <Samson> >]

So tren before nandro?

Yes sir

[stpete]

600mgs sust and about same w/deca should do wonders.

[fit2bOld]

I'm all in in on the deca samson less sides than Tren but still great results. As with any 19 nor estrogen control is key.

[< <Samson> >]

600mgs sust and about same w/deca should do wonders.

Good good

What do you recommend in cycle length? 12 weeks also?

Deca over tren enan though?

[Turkish Juicer]

Deca over tren enan though?

Well, as long as someone is not completely repelled by Tren sides I don't see why or how anything can be preferred over Tren.

[Turkish Juicer]

Nandrolone is a great compound samson. Probably not the best for bulking, so to speak,

You would be surprised by how many IFBB pros would disagree with this claim.

Nandrolone and Anadrol are still amongst the most preferred bulking agents (combined with Test, of course) during off-season.

Run Deca at a minimum of 800mg EW combined with an equal amount of test and adjust your nutrition accordingly, you'll need a new wardrobe

[warmouth]

You would be surprised by how many IFBB pros would disagree with this claim.

Nandrolone and Anadrol are still amongst the most preferred bulking agents (combined with Test, of course) during off-season.

Run Deca at a minimum of 800mg EW combined with an equal amount of test and adjust your nutrition accordingly, you'll need a new wardrobe

Oh I agree it is great for bulking. Its what I'm doing now. I was only referring to it not being the number 1 choice here for most. Tren is the go to for any goal it seems. Deca is absolutley great for bulking. I'm not taking anything away by no means. I love it!

[clarky.]

So tren before nandro?

X2 ^^^ lol

[< <Samson> >]

Almost forgot to mention that one. Anadrol would be aight too. . . . Just the whole attachment to liver, ya know.

[stpete]

Well, as long as someone is not completely repelled by Tren sides I don't see why or how anything can be preferred over Tren.

I always recommend the lesser of the two 19-nor evils first. Just me though.

[Turkish Juicer]

I always recommend the lesser of the two 19-nor evils first. Just me though.

I completely agree with the logic behind it.

Imagine you are a virgin girl. Would you want to loose your virginity to a big black guy? Most likely not.

Messing with Tren so early into one's AAS journey is about the same deal. Save the best to the last I say

[stpete]

I completely agree with the logic behind it.

Imagine you are a virgin girl. Would you want to loose your virginity to a big black guy? Most likely not.

Messing with Tren so early into one's AAS journey is about the same deal. Save the best to the last I say

hahaha....wtf? Easy buddy. haha..

[warmouth]

I completely agree with the logic behind it.

Imagine you are a virgin girl. Would you want to loose your virginity to a big black guy? Most likely not.

Messing with Tren so early into one's AAS journey is about the same deal. Save the best to the last I say

Ha ha ha! What about me being a white guy? Lol. Good stuff. Nut seriously TJ, I love deca. With me not experieencing any serious sides just makes me a lot less fearful of my first tren run.

[bigsiv]

I completely agree with the logic behind it.

Imagine you are a virgin girl. Would you want to loose your virginity to a big black guy? Most likely not.

Messing with Tren so early into one's AAS journey is about the same deal. Save the best to the last I say

Ha ha ha ha that was shocking Turkish very funny though best analogy I've heard so far

[< <Samson> >]

Nice analogy. . . . LoL

My main concern is to pack on some muscle while not fvcking myself up. Every type of juice I read about has a possibility for different negative side effects.

Tren - Insomnia, sweats or leaky bitch tits if it's not controlled (there are more)
Deca - Deca dick
All - Shrink your bawls

My next run will incorporate Tren Ace @ a very low dosage. So, don't really compare it to a bulk run where I would like to run higher quantities.

So far deca seems to be the winner. But, how are its mass building abilities compared to Tren or Anadrol? It's pretty much down to those three. Anadrol I am thinking of stealing clear of due to my fear of liver damage. Yet, I know a-Bombs would work quite well. Tren seems to be too full of sides to be run in a long 3 month cycle. So, it kind of leaves deca as a safer alternative.

[Turkish Juicer]

^^^ Deca, without a doubt, is the safest of all three you have listed above.

Here is how I rather interpret the comparison of the three candidates as listed:

Trenbolone: Hands down most powerful AAS on earth. It serves all purposes, cutting, bulking, recomp etc. It is simply the best in every regard. Major downside is the number of sides and how unbearable some of these can get, even at lower doses (such as 50mg ED). Tren is the side master, and I don't believe there is a single person who can keep every single Tren side under control, especially while running higher doses.

Deca: Not everyone experiences ''Deca dick'', as a matter of fact. I don't, for instance. I know many people on this board as well as in my real life circles who fornicate like bunnies while on Deca & Test. I also happen to believe that those who have priorly experienced Deca dick while cycling with this compound can avoid this situation by pulling a few tricks: Running the Test a higher dose, better estrogen management, incorporating Cialis etc. would be a few to name. Deca is still widely used in pro BB circles for strictly bulking purposes during the off-season, so it is out of the question whether it is a good bulking agent or not.

Anadrol: Most powerful of all orals, there is a reason why it was nicknamed ''A-Bomb''. Possibly the best oral for the buck, as well as the best oral for bulking purposes. Choice of many pros for off-season bulking purposes as Anadrol serves this purpose well. Also one of the most hepatatoxic, which shouldn't be a very big concern if the user doesn't have a pre-existing issues with liver and as long as dosage & duration is carefully engineered. I highly recommend to have Liv52 on hand for cycles that involve more than 50mg of Anadrol ED for 8 weeks or longer.

[< <Samson> >]

Good info bro.

Never really considered running Anadrol that long. 8 weeks seems like the max I would ever try.

[Turkish Juicer]

Good info bro.

Never really considered running Anadrol that long. 8 weeks seems like the max I would ever try.

If I were to run Anadrol again, I would stop at week 6 for various reasons.

[XxAndreaxX]

Tren IMO is absolutely not for bulking, or better said, for the BAAAAAAAMMMMM everyone wants to see in a bulking cycle. Tren is very powerful, more than Deca, but its a linear and continuous muscle builder, because there is no estrogen conversion. Its very dry.
So I'd say, for a real bulking experience, sust, deca and anadrol, would be the best combo.
for a slow and continuous transformation, sust and tren is what I'm using.
But anyways, I never tried deca, but Tren gives a hell of sides, if you don't want to stay alert during all the cycle because every week you got a new surprise, don't take tren.

[< <Samson> >]

Real good info here for sure.

BTW, TJ you look insane in your Avi. Skin looks like its painted on muscle. . . lol

[Permabulk]

I would say the clear choice is Deca if you haven't had either of the 19-nor's. You have to run it for a minute to kick in, for me atleast, but it's really a great compound.

[redz]

Tren is the side master, and I don't believe there is a single person who can keep every single Tren side under control, especially while running higher doses.

Just to add to this I`m only on day 15 of Tren E right now and sleep is tough to come by. Yet i still love the stuff. I`m thinking I should start taking my caber now.