Cutting Naturally VS Cutting with Steroids

[1010101]

185 pounds, 18% bf, 24 years old, 5' 11", Keto diet,
I Did a cycle of clen about 3 weeks ago. Makes me sweat/shakey a lot and I didn't feel it really made a huge difference.
I did a testosterone e cycle for 12 weeks ending 4 months ago.

Can you even properly with cut with steroids without taking form of test? Just looking for some basic info. I know lowing bf% is 90% diet and cardio, but there has to be a faster way to strip this fat off.

[ChiveOn]

Really it's diet and cardio man. When I lost 33lbs over a few months I did the paleo diet and it killed it for me. Clen at 18% isn't going to show huge results. They would be more pronounced the lower you get.

[ChiveOn]

As car as with steroids, I'm not really sure what you think will do the trick. But pretty much everything I would suggest test going with. Even if its a pretty low dose

[1010101]

As car as with steroids, I'm not really sure what you think will do the trick. But pretty much everything I would suggest test going with. Even if its a pretty low dose

I want to get <12% bf before I take another cycle. I don't want "waste" a full cycle including test on cutting when I know losing bf% is possible naturally.

[jasc]

If you need an aid alongside diet/cardio look in to an ECA stack. I much prefer this over clen.

Any AAS you'll run will need Test as a base.

A thermogenic would be better than AAS for your goals.

[MuttonChop]

Believe it or not, this is one of those rare instances where a Dbol only cycle would work. Just use an AI to manage bloat and sides. 20mg/ED should be more than enough.

But I also believe in saving cycles for bulking. You should be using AAS for cutting only for 2 reasons:

1) You have to go on a 1000+ calorie deficit to make a deadline for a show
2) You are definitely above your genetic potential.

[Bio-Active]

Cutting is determined by diet. As for ass no experienced member on this board would recommend a cycle with out using test as a base.

[redz]

Believe it or not, this is one of those rare instances where a Dbol only cycle would work. Just use an AI to manage bloat and sides. 20mg/ED should be more than enough.

Terrible advice.......

[kronik420]

Believe it or not, this is one of those rare instances where a Dbol only cycle would work. Just use an AI to manage bloat and sides. 20mg/ED should be more than enough.

But I also believe in saving cycles for bulking. You should be using AAS for cutting only for 2 reasons:

1) You have to go on a 1000+ calorie deficit to make a deadline for a show
2) You are definitely above your genetic potential.

or not...

[Sgt. Hartman]

Believe it or not, this is one of those rare instances where a Dbol only cycle would work. Just use an AI to manage bloat and sides. 20mg/ED should be more than enough.

Good luck doing any substantial amount of cardio with the pumps from dbol.

I want to get <12% bf before I take another cycle. I don't want "waste" a full cycle including test on cutting when I know losing bf% is possible naturally.

Good idea, learn to diet and use cardio to cut and maintain lower BF and use steroids for growing.

If you want something to speed it up look at ECA or possibly T3 but read up on it first.