pct and hcg advise please

[george chryss]

hello everybody
here is a list of the gear i have on hand and how im planning to cycle them
your two cents would be appreciate

stats 28 yrs old 5'10 about 200..training on off all my life from kickboxing..boxing..kung fu ..bodybuilding the works!!! been back hiting the gym hard for about 2 yrs after a 2 yrs off

test cyp 30ml
eq 30ml
pharma win 30ml
tbol 2 bottles
clomid 1 bottle
letro half a pack
hcg 2 bottles

test cyp 400 week 1 - 14 (2 times a week)
eq 400 to 600 week 1 - 12 (2 times a week)
tbol 40mg a day week 1 - 8
pharma win 300 week 1 - 8 or 9 (3 times a week 1ml) mon wed fri

would like your opinions on the PCT ...when and how much

3 weeks after last shot would be a good time to start

i figure 1/4 to 1/2 tab letro eod during cycle if i get excess bloating, acne..moody etc
hcg im not too sure of... i hear use some mid cycle aswell at post cycle stacked with clomid
i was told if my nuts are up my butt mid cycle to use some hcg...if not wait till 3 weeks post and stack with clomid
your .02 cents would be appreciated guys

[MickeyKnox]

Welcome.

hello everybody
here is a list of the gear i have on hand and how im planning to cycle them
your two cents would be appreciate

stats 28 yrs old 5'10 about 200..training on off all my life from kickboxing..boxing..kung fu ..bodybuilding the works!!! been back hiting the gym hard for about 2 yrs after a 2 yrs off

test cyp 30ml
eq 30ml
pharma win 30ml
tbol 2 bottles
clomid 1 bottle
letro half a pack
hcg 2 bottles

test cyp 400 week 1 - 14 (2 times a week) 12 wks is plenty. You won't see much more in terms of gains after 12 wks with Cyp.
eq 400 to 600 week 1 - 12 (2 times a week) This needs to be run out to 16+ wks, so IF youre going to run it, you'll have to prepare for a longer cycle and extend your Cyp out to 16 wks as well. If you already have it fine. But don't buy it again - its not worth the cost vs amount/length of time
tbol 40mg a day week 1 - 8
pharma win 300 week 1 - 8 or 9 (3 times a week 1ml) mon wed fri. Not sure what this is. Winstrol??

would like your opinions on the PCT ...when and how much

3 weeks after last shot would be a good time to start. No. Its actually 18 days.

Clomid 75/50/50/50 <---- if using tabs, 100mg first wk is fine.
Nolva 40/20/20/20

i figure 1/4 to 1/2 tab letro eod during cycle if i get excess bloating, acne..moody etc
hcg im not too sure of... i hear use some mid cycle aswell at post cycle stacked with clomid
i was told if my nuts are up my butt mid cycle to use some hcg...if not wait till 3 weeks post and stack with clomid
your .02 cents would be appreciated guys

hCG is to be used on cycle @ 250iu 2/wk to prevent testicular atrophy. I highly recommend you use it. It also assists in providing a smooth transition to PCT.

What is your estimated BF%?

[george chryss]

firstly...thanks for taking the time to read an respond very very appreciated my man

yes it is winstol.... the real deal n cost me half a leg!

i got 30ml of both test and eq... so if i keep the dose to 400/week i can extend my cycle to 14 maybe 15 weeks i figure but ill have to see

as for clomid..it is 50 50mg tabs yes... so 100mg a day for the first week after 18 days..and then 1 tab a day afterwards? sound about right to you?
dont got any nolva on hand...

and can u be a little bit more presise with the hcg? how much?...frequency (mon wed fri? ) and at what point during my cycle? assuming it runs 14 to 15ish weeks (i got 2 bottles)
ive also read its good to run it along side clomid post cycle... what are your thoughts on all this

[george chryss]

and how did you come to 18 days as start date for pct?
whats the thinking behind that?

[MickeyKnox]

firstly...thanks for taking the time to read an respond very very appreciated my man

yes it is winstol.... the real deal n cost me half a leg!

i got 30ml of both test and eq... so if i keep the dose to 400/week i can extend my cycle to 14 maybe 15 weeks i figure but ill have to see

as for clomid..it is 50 50mg tabs yes... so 100mg a day for the first week after 18 days..and then 1 tab a day afterwards? sound about right to you?
dont got any nolva on hand...

and can u be a little bit more presise with the hcg? how much?...frequency (mon wed fri? ) and at what point during my cycle? assuming it runs 14 to 15ish weeks (i got 2 bottles)
ive also read its good to run it along side clomid post cycle... what are your thoughts on all this

and how did you come to 18 days as start date for pct?
whats the thinking behind that?

Run hCG the length of your cycle up to about 4 days before you begin PCT. 250iu twice per week, every 3.5 days.

Cyp has an 18 day ester. So you wait 18 days before commencing PCT.

PCT is exactly how i laid it out.

[george chryss]

thanks man
and noted!
its gona be a wild one lol

[Antonious]

U dont run hcg during PCT..

[MickeyKnox]

U dont run hcg during PCT..

Noted in post #2 and #5.