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    tren and test cycle questions..HELP..

    Ok so here's my stats: 27 yrs old
    155-160 lbs
    7-8% bf
    5' 7"
    I train 4 to 5 days a week, and I NEVER miss leg day! (sorry, I had to throw that in there)
    I have ran two previous cycles over the past year and a half. My first was 50 mg Anadrol ed for 8
    weeks. My second cycle was a bit more thought out and planned, with 500mg test e for 10 weeks and 400 mg masteron prop with that for 8 weeks. Although I got good gains in strength, the size factor is lacking. This cycle I'm running 500 mg test e and 300 mg tren hex depot every week for 10 weeks. I have clomid and nolva on hand for gyno symptoms. I found out with my last test cycle that I'm prone to getting itchy/sore nips, but 20 mg nolva ed for the remainder on my cycle took care of that. When I set up for this tren cycle I included clomid to the mix for the progestin sides that tren could cause but now I'm not so sure if thats going to be the best route. i've heard that low doses of tren rarely cause significant sides but i want to be certain since I'm already in my second week of this cycle. Any help would be awesome. Thanks

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    What does your nutrition plan look like and are you running HCG?
    Quote Originally Posted by pittbull85 View Post
    Ok so here's my stats: 27 yrs old
    155-160 lbs
    7-8% bf
    5' 7"
    I train 4 to 5 days a week, and I NEVER miss leg day! (sorry, I had to throw that in there)
    I have ran two previous cycles over the past year and a half. My first was 50 mg Anadrol ed for 8
    weeks. My second cycle was a bit more thought out and planned, with 500mg test e for 10 weeks and 400 mg masteron prop with that for 8 weeks. Although I got good gains in strength, the size factor is lacking. This cycle I'm running 500 mg test e and 300 mg tren hex depot every week for 10 weeks. I have clomid and nolva on hand for gyno symptoms. I found out with my last test cycle that I'm prone to getting itchy/sore nips, but 20 mg nolva ed for the remainder on my cycle took care of that. When I set up for this tren cycle I included clomid to the mix for the progestin sides that tren could cause but now I'm not so sure if thats going to be the best route. i've heard that low doses of tren rarely cause significant sides but i want to be certain since I'm already in my second week of this cycle. Any help would be awesome. Thanks

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    yes, I ran hcg and clomid for a pct after my test cycle and I have it on hand already for this cycle. I've never ran it during a cycle though. As far and a nutrition plan, its semi-balanced at best. My work schedule kinda makes it hard but clean carbs and large quantities of animal protein is my basis. I try not to eat anything out of a can, no preservatives, high fructose syrup, hydrog. oils.. I used to fight in the mma scene and that has forever changed what i put in my body for fuel. Chicken, fish and eggs everyday. Beef twice a week, since i try to get my protein needs from whole foods I limit my self to three 30 gram whey isolate shakes a day. And PLENTY of water. I work outside and there's a camel back full of h2o on my back all day. Daily vits (oneaday, milk thistle, l arginine and creatine) and greens once a day.

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    Here's what your proposed cycle should realistically look like based on the information given:

    Test e 250mg/3.5d
    Tren h 150mg/3.5d
    Anastrozole .5mg/EOD
    Caber .5mg/e4d

    Save the pct meds for pct, the AI I suggested at that dose should be more than enough to help you with your estrogen issues.

    Also, some may suggest you add in HCG at around 250iu/3.5d throughout the cycle but I would suggest you do your homework and decide for yourself.

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    7%-8% Bf?

    Pic?

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    ok, thanks for the info. And I'm workin on the pic... So whats the deal with the clomid? I may have been misinformed but I"ve found info saying that clomid works for the progestin sides from tren.. is that b.s.?

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    Ok, so like I stated.. Im already 2 weeks into this cycle. Now I'm almost certain that I dont have on hand what I need.. I have 50 mg clomid and 20 mg nolva.. My suppliers are limited but I'm willing to do what ever I have to to make sure this cycle is run properly... I guess i need to know what I need for gyno symptoms from the test (I stated earlier that im prone to itchy/sore nips) from test. What can I take to control the gyno from the test but will also work well with the tren???

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    If you run liquidex or anastrazole it should take care of that. Liquidex brought my E2 down nicely. Listen to these guys they know. I agree with "perseverance on what you cycle should look like. Have you lab work to see where your at? That's important. ...crazy old mike

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    It was wrong to start with this cycle in the first place.. you have only one test E cycle under belt and " lacking size" means you are not eating enough which is probably why you have low BF
    its great to have low BF but you got to learn how to bulk up and cut
    since you already started keep going. get your hand on AI from Ar-r and get some caber and run it 0.5mg X2/wk....
    and definitely add HCG.... and for PCT nolvadex/clomid....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granovich View Post
    It was wrong to start with this cycle in the first place.. you have only one test E cycle under belt and " lacking size" means you are not eating enough which is probably why you have low BF
    its great to have low BF but you got to learn how to bulk up and cut
    since you already started keep going. get your hand on AI from Ar-r and get some caber and run it 0.5mg X2/wk....
    and definitely add HCG.... and for PCT nolvadex/clomid....
    I agree about not enough size for he tren yet. Not enough to get hard and to lean out. If you have enough tren for another cycle I would get off it. I would kick myself with more test and finish up. Wait until you put on 15 more pounds and am able to hold it ....cm

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