Over training

[trenhead1]

Do u guys believe in over training personaly I don't I no many outhers that don't but many that do beileve by it

[MickeyKnox]

Thats like asking, 'do you believe in over eating?'

I don't believe in over training. But i do believe that its possible. Most people that think they are over training themselves, aren't.

[trenhead1]

Yes I understand what ure saying I suppose it comes down to listining to ure body example doms in certain areas avoid as such only train when u feel u can give it 110%

[Schwarzenegger]

For those that believe in overtraining

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8_8phD7AwM

If your nutrition and rest is on point = no such thing as overtraining.

[MuscleInk]

For those that believe in overtraining

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8_8phD7AwM

If your nutrition and rest is on point = no such thing as overtraining.

Agreed but those are two big IFs. Most people don't eat correctly and their sleep is fragmented or inconsistent at best.

[JWP806]

Lol... "You're worried about working motherfvucker."

That dude is a fan of the "f word."

[gbrice75]

Thats like asking, 'do you believe in over eating?'

I don't believe in over training. But i do believe that its possible. Most people that think they are over training themselves, aren't.

^^ this. Overtraining is SUCH an overused term that's been thrown around over the years, mainly due to bodybuilding mags pushing their 'recovery' supps.

The fact of the matter is it's very difficult to overtrain. Our bodies are smart and adaptable, we're built like that. Look at athletes from all different areas: cyclists are constantly using their legs - do they look overtrained? How about sprinters or marathon runners? These guys practice (i.e. work the same bodyparts) hours a day every day... so why aren't they overtrained? You can cite them having optimal guidance (i.e. coaches, etc), and what not, but I think that's just an excuse.

The body doesn't require 6 days to rest/recover before training a muscle group again - that's a fact, assuming you're training optimally. By optimally, I mean hard enough to stimulate growth. Tearing down muscle to a ridiculous degree doesn't promote further/faster growth; it only leads to longer recovery time.

[fishizzle0927]

For those that believe in overtraining

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8_8phD7AwM

If your nutrition and rest is on point = no such thing as overtraining.

hahahahaha!!! YES!!!! i love it was thinking bout taking a nappy poopoo but not now muthafvckas!!!!!! going back to the gym muthafvuckas sh!t

[ironbeck]

Nice...

[AD]

For those that believe in overtraining

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8_8phD7AwM

If your nutrition and rest is on point = no such thing as overtraining.

and age of the subject.... or dose of trt used.

[cjay]

For those that believe in overtraining

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8_8phD7AwM

If your nutrition and rest is on point = no such thing as overtraining.

Wish that was true, but medical science trumps gym science. Over training is is legitimate, and there have been many studies on it. Pro conditioning programs have been geared around avoiding this issue. http://optimumsportsperformance.com/blog/?p=1133
The use of AAS does allow you to train longer and harder, while staving off over training to some degree, but if you don't give your body the proper rest and nutrition over training is a reality.

[trenhead1]

I'm defently not convinced in over training u could say I have a obsession to bench press and I train chest whey to much and its not back tracking at all its growing well and getting strong as anything I'm bench pressing more than I'm sqauting if it wernt for poxy doms I'd probly bench every day

[cjay]

I'm defently not convinced in over training u could say I have a obsession to bench press and I train chest whey to much and its not back tracking at all its growing well and getting strong as anything I'm bench pressing more than I'm sqauting if it wernt for poxy doms I'd probly bench every day

It's not something that happens over night, over training is a cumulative effect, and if you're using AAS at the moment you're staving it off to some degree, but in time it will catch up. The key to any kind of exercise is rest, that's where the body really makes the big gains. The lifting only does the tearing down, and if you don't rest enough you don't get the built backup.

If you're benching more than you're squatting maybe you should swap out a bench day or two and get some more leg work in. I've got a fairly good bench, but it's no where near my squats. I only work chest once a week, though it does get some work on tri days with weighted dips and close grip bench. Getting a big bench is about more than just working chest over and over.

[evander87]

If your nutrition and rest is on point = no such thing as overtraining.

So how do you cut, calorie deficit, and get proper nutrition without over training?

I'm running 375 test/week, TDEE -800, and carb cycling and I feel like sh!t most of the time. I'm cutting the fat like mad but sore all the damn time.

[AD]

So how do you cut, calorie deficit, and get proper nutrition without over training?

I'm running 375 test/week, TDEE -800, and carb cycling and I feel like sh!t most of the time. I'm cutting the fat like mad but sore all the damn time.

you may have to change your training routine when on a cut. maybe fewer sets, maybe lighter weights, longer rest between sets...

[riotz0r]

^^^^^^^^

With the calorie deficit you could be doing more harm then good... Sometimes you have to cut sets and weight because your body cannot repair itself...