can i add this in to my cycle too? info inside

[youmadbro?]

basically im wondering what steroids should not be used together like durabolin and trenace are there any injectables that should not be taken at the same time

im 202 lbs 9 percent body fat and this is my 8th cycle im six foot tall i get incredible gains on my cycles
currently i am taking
test 400 which is test e and c at 200 mg each 3 injections a week so 1200mg weekly
test prop 400 mg weekly
durabolin 700 mg weekly
equipoise 1000 mg weekly
dbol 80 mg daily
letro daily 1 tablet
hcg 500 iu a week
liv52and tudca
after 4 weeks i will drop the test prop because the t400 will be working by then in full force andi will continue to the other compounds for 10 weeks theni will change to the following

test 400 at 1200 mg week
tren ace 500 mg week
primobolan 600 mg week
masteron 500 mg week
winny inject 300mg week
equipoise 1000 mg week
winny pills 100 mg daily
arimidex eod

i will ride this second half for 8 weeks then drop the tren and continue for an additional 8 weeks
i will be taking hgh at 8 iu a day split into 2 injections to simulate the pulse of the pituitary gland i am aware that this is a lot of gear but i never get any sides from gear or estrogen sides this is the most i will have used at one time are there any items here that will affect one another negatively ive heard that mixing 2 19 compounds can cause prolactin issues which i am not prone to
please provide your input that is constructive i do not need any negative comments as they will not help i have seen most people getting harsh responses on this forum but i know there are ver knowledgable members on here i wish to hear from
my cycle is to be a slight bulking cycle for the first 10 weeks then for the remainder of the 15 weeks it is designed to cut down further i have a solide 6 week pct set i always recover well and get pre and post bw done
Please let me know what you think of my dosages and if i should add or subtract anything from this setup i do not mind making changes to improve results and health and safety
looking forward to reading your positive input guys, thanks for your opinions
oh if it matters ill be using british dragon and CTP labs products with generic blue top hgh i get really good prices so im not worried about the prices of all my gear please do not pm me and ask for anything you will be blocked and ignored i do not sell i only use for personal NO EXCEPTONS

[Bio-Active]

basically im wondering what steroids should not be used together like durabolin and trenace are there any injectables that should not be taken at the same time

im 202 lbs 9 percent body fat and this is my 8th cycle im six foot tall i get incredible gains on my cycles
currently i am taking
test 400 which is test e and c at 200 mg each 3 injections a week so 1200mg weekly
test prop 400 mg weekly
durabolin 700 mg weekly
equipoise 1000 mg weekly
dbol 80 mg daily
letro daily 1 tablet
hcg 500 iu a week
liv52and tudca
after 4 weeks i will drop the test prop because the t400 will be working by then in full force andi will continue to the other compounds for 10 weeks theni will change to the following

test 400 at 1200 mg week
tren ace 500 mg week
primobolan 600 mg week
masteron 500 mg week
winny inject 300mg week
equipoise 1000 mg week
winny pills 100 mg daily
arimidex eod

i will ride this second half for 8 weeks then drop the tren and continue for an additional 8 weeks
i will be taking hgh at 8 iu a day split into 2 injections to simulate the pulse of the pituitary gland i am aware that this is a lot of gear but i never get any sides from gear or estrogen sides this is the most i will have used at one time are there any items here that will affect one another negatively ive heard that mixing 2 19 compounds can cause prolactin issues which i am not prone to
please provide your input that is constructive i do not need any negative comments as they will not help i have seen most people getting harsh responses on this forum but i know there are ver knowledgable members on here i wish to hear from
my cycle is to be a slight bulking cycle for the first 10 weeks then for the remainder of the 15 weeks it is designed to cut down further i have a solide 6 week pct set i always recover well and get pre and post bw done
Please let me know what you think of my dosages and if i should add or subtract anything from this setup i do not mind making changes to improve results and health and safety
looking forward to reading your positive input guys, thanks for your opinions
oh if it matters ill be using british dragon and CTP labs products with generic blue top hgh i get really good prices so im not worried about the prices of all my gear please do not pm me and ask for anything you will be blocked and ignored i do not sell i only use for personal NO EXCEPTONS

What is your cycle experience

[redz]

Serious cycle, makes my current one look light.

[MickeyKnox]

1. Are you competing now or have you in the past?

2. Stats? (you knew it was coming, didn't you? )

[bigbuilder250]

I can't believe you are six foot tall and 202 lbs. That cycle should put an easy 20lbs on easily.

[youmadbro?]

What is your cycle experience

well as ive said above i have done about 8cycles and i usually like to start with a light bulk and move into a cutting cycle
if you mean what have i used, everything haha i prefer phen prop esters but i have used literally everything that you could imagine

as is everybody i too am still learning, i was wondering can you take winny injecitions water base with tren ace and durabolin at the same time or will prolactin be an issue, i know i do not have issues with prolactin or gyno or other negative sides but im sure too many 19 compounds can cause issues

[youmadbro?]

I can't believe you are six foot tall and 202 lbs. That cycle should put an easy 20lbs on easily.

yea i weighed 233 about 4 months ago and i have really been cutting down to get a more hard and dry look but when cutting i tend to lose some bulk at the sametime, my goal is to be a solid and lean 230lb bber but i probably have a year to go to get my long lasting results

[youmadbro?]

1. Are you competing now or have you in the past?

2. Stats? (you knew it was coming, didn't you? )

i am preparing to do competitions again so no i am not currently registered to compete

my stats i dont know how you mean but i am 25 years old6 foot tall as of today i weigh 203.2 lbs with out clothes with 9percent body fat, current diet is very clean consisting of 320grams of protein daily and about 140 grams of carbs through various shakes and supplements my calorie intake is 6200 daily and once i begin my cutting portion i will be dropping carbs to 65g, calories to 2800, and protein will remain the same i should gain an additional 25/35 pounds of clean muscle that is long lasting and high quality once i drop cycle and pct i expect to see 8 lbs fall right off the bat

[youmadbro?]

Serious cycle, makes my current one look light.

its not about how much gear you can use safely my friend it is all about feeling good about yourself, you and i probably have different goals for our aas use, ive also been pounding insane amounts of compounds into my body to feel comfortable with myself when i was 20 years old i was 6 foot and 145 pounds soaking wet, i hated my body then so i did something about it

i am curious what your cycle is my man

[youmadbro?]

i appreciate all input guys, can someone answer my original question? are there any steroid compounds that cannot or should not be used concurrently with any other steroidal compounds? can you safely take winny tren and durabolin\deca and equipoise along with masteron? i havent been able to locate much information online about this so i am hoping to get some feed back from my fellow supplementers

[BBrian]

yea i weighed 233 about 4 months ago and i have really been cutting down to get a more hard and dry look but when cutting i tend to lose some bulk at the sametime, my goal is to be a solid and lean 230lb bber but i probably have a year to go to get my long lasting results

I was going to say that you're awfully light to be 6'/9% after that many cycles. But even if you have been cutting, I can't help but assume that your diet is lacking, otherwise why put THAT many steroids into your body (holy shit). What exactly are your goals with this cycle? How disciplined are you with your diet on and off cycle? And finally how old are you? As far as your belief that you're not prone to estrogenic side effects, a low body fat percentage makes a difference, but you're human like the rest of us and high estrogen levels will wreak havoc on your body whether you're noticing it or not.

[OnTheSauce]

i am preparing to do competitions again so no i am not currently registered to compete

current diet is very clean consisting of 320grams of protein daily and about 140 grams of carbs through various shakes and supplements my calorie intake is 6200 daily

So.....
320*4= 1280 calories of protein
150*4= 600 calories of Carbs
1880.

6200-1880= 4320 calories of fat.

So are u full of it or just retarded?

Your cycle is absurd for how small you are. And your supposed cycle experience where u had great gains leaves me to believe you're full of it as well. 8 cycles and weigh 200lbs? You're doing it wrong. Obviously your diet is jacked. And the type questions you asked seems like you've never used anything. Coming onto the board with a fake history and pretending to be an aas vet wont get you any help. Come clean and be honest. Real stats and cycle experience. We will help. Then hit the nutrition section and get that diet sorted out

[youmadbro?]

So.....
320*4= 1280 calories of protein
150*4= 600 calories of Carbs
1880.

6200-1880= 4320 calories of fat.

So are u full of it or just retarded?

Your cycle is absurd for how small you are. And your supposed cycle experience where u had great gains leaves me to believe you're full of it as well. 8 cycles and weigh 200lbs? You're doing it wrong. Obviously your diet is jacked. And the type questions you asked seems like you've never used anything. Coming onto the board with a fake history and pretending to be an aas vet wont get you any help. Come clean and be honest. Real stats and cycle experience. We will help. Then hit the nutrition section and get that diet sorted out

The info I have provided is correct I'm not sure what you're doing with your little math equation but my diet is solid as is my workout routine. I state I was 230 lbs not too long ago and I was still climbing but I recently found out I have some back issues; hurniated l2 l3 t11 t12 spinal arthritis, advanced degenerative disc disease, schmorl's nodes, scheuermanns disease, and scoliosis of the upper spine. I take 60mg of Percocet a day and 2400 mg of generic skelaxin (maltraxalone), tizanidine, and 400 mg of celebrex a day. My doctor has told me that although steroids are not good on the body, my condition cannot be made worse by the heavy training and use of compounds. Yes I am lighter than I would like but all things considered man I'm glad I'm not in a wheel chair, so ease up on me ok. I can post X-rays and MRI photos since you seem to have a hard time with believing what I am saying I can also post a picture of my personal use products if you need further proof. So yea, most people would be heavier and I would be too but the medication sometimes makes it difficult to function during the day and eat what I need to. I had to take a break from lifting after I found all this out so I trying to recover lost ground.
As far as your math goes, 320 g of protein is my daily intake which is about 1.5 g per pound of body weight I run high carbs for a reason Please be a little nicer in your future conversations with me I know there are a lot of posers and newbs on here but I am not one. Perhapse you care to aske the question I have asked 3-4 times now that has been ignored

To the other guy
Yea I know I am human I did not mean that estrogen cannot do anything to me, I meant that I am not as sensitive to it as others are and I take plenty of letrozole to prevent conversion

[OnTheSauce]

My math equation is counting your calories. You obviously have no clue how to count calories or put together a diet. And 150 Carbs is no where near high carb. I take in 700 a day

[youmadbro?]

My math equation is counting your calories. You obviously have no clue how to count calories or put together a diet. And 150 Carbs is no where near high carb. I take in 700 a day

The carbs listed are only from my carb shake man, lighten up bro

[MickeyKnox]

well as ive said above i have done about 8cycles and i usually like to start with a light bulk and move into a cutting cycle
if you mean what have i used, everything haha i prefer phen prop esters but i have used literally everything that you could imagine

as is everybody i too am still learning, i was wondering can you take winny injecitions water base with tren ace and durabolin at the same time or will prolactin be an issue, i know i do not have issues with prolactin or gyno or other negative sides but im sure too many 19 compounds can cause issues

So.....
320*4= 1280 calories of protein
150*4= 600 calories of Carbs
1880.

6200-1880= 4320 calories of fat.

So are u full of it or just retarded?

Your cycle is absurd for how small you are. And your supposed cycle experience where u had great gains leaves me to believe you're full of it as well. 8 cycles and weigh 200lbs? You're doing it wrong. Obviously your diet is jacked. And the type questions you asked seems like you've never used anything. Coming onto the board with a fake history and pretending to be an aas vet wont get you any help. Come clean and be honest. Real stats and cycle experience. We will help. Then hit the nutrition section and get that diet sorted out

Something doesn't add up here. The reason i asked if you were about to step on stage is because your proposed cycle resembles a laundry list that is representative of someone who is competing and making money off their body. But youve done 8 cycles and, this being your 9th, and yet you're still confused on how to properly diet and cycle?? I don't think you really know what you're doing.

And i support Patrick. Your cycle is ridiculous for an amateur bb'dr. Who do you think you area? Seriously? And Patrick's numbers are accurate. You're ingesting a ton of fat and have no clue why. You didn't even know how to figure that out, did you? Be honest.

Youre best bet is to stop, think, and regroup. This shopping cart of steroids need to be addressed. Sadly you've developed the mentality that more is best. It isn't. And i can GUAR-AN-TEE you that you haven't grown out of your second cycle, let alone your last.

[milky01623]

I agree with Patrick I'm currently priming and my daily intake at maintenance is 260/260/60 pro/carb/fat my prime is 40% less carb so 260/158/60 and high carb days are 260/300/60
I weigh 208lb at 5'10
I'm sorry buddy but your diet is way off

[BBrian]

Well, back to your prior question, I'm really not sure why you would want to stack so many compounds that provide similar results. Primo, masteron, Winstrol (pills AND injections??), etc. You could have just gone with test and tren and avoided adding liver disease to your list of injuries brother. And while I'm not a doctor, for you to have what's presented as severe back problems and yet be told by a doctor that doing juice and heavy lifting isn't going to make things worse, well...this is just par for the course of why we're having so many difficulties comprehending any logical aspect of this entire scenario.

Again, test + tren + proper diet = a better plan of attack.

[OnTheSauce]

He's probably 18 and copied some pro stack to run. Has no clue about nutrition or lifting and can't gain weight. He thinks steroids are the answer. And tried to Pawn off a good diet by picking a high calorie number and decent protein amount. He doesn't really count calories or monitor macros.

[kronik420]

winny injectable and winny pills at the same time?? lol why? eq? serious?

[--->>405<<---]

yeh funny and good catch patrick that jumped out at me as soon as i read 6000+ cals with those carb and protein macros..

id be surprised if he comes back as he has been busted from what i can tell. im 5'9" and weigh 195lbs and have never run a single cycle.. IMO with 8 cycles and his height he should be 230+ easily.. maybe even pushing 250..

[Bio-Active]

I was referring to cycle length, Compounds and dose(s). What is your PCT experience and do you have experience with using an AI? IF What compounds and Dose(s)

well as ive said above i have done about 8cycles and i usually like to start with a light bulk and move into a cutting cycle
if you mean what have i used, everything haha i prefer phen prop esters but i have used literally everything that you could imagine

as is everybody i too am still learning, i was wondering can you take winny injecitions water base with tren ace and durabolin at the same time or will prolactin be an issue, i know i do not have issues with prolactin or gyno or other negative sides but im sure too many 19 compounds can cause issues

[MickeyKnox]

Did anyone else add up the 1000mg/wk of Winny? LOL

[kronik420]

Did anyone else add up the 1000mg/wk of Winny? LOL

4.8g of gear/week in total..lol..

can u dig it?

[OnTheSauce]

I HAVE to eat over 5000 a day so I know how much food that is. 150gr of Carbs... lol. I kick back 200 at breakfast

[Bio-Active]

Doesn't look like we are going to get a response

[BBrian]

I'm more impressed with the fact that 405 has never cycled than anything else.

[bigbuilder250]

Man I have been at this stuff for a long while now, I too compete. Last one will be 4 years ago this year. I am 6' 1", I won't get on stage again til I can go in at a solid 240-250. Which means I need to get to about 280. You weighing 230lbs won't cut it in the NPC.

[robinjohn12]

Try to meet one good adviser of steroids.

[ma_fighter]

18 weeks straight of 80-143 mg's/day of an 17aa ?
143 mg winny/day ?
1000 mg EQ - How's the BP?
8th cycle, assuming 18 weeks on + 2 week wait + pct + time on = time off = one cycle every 44 weeks, x8 cycles = 6½ years of juicing, and you're STILL only @91kgs?
No hCG during the second half?


Here's an idea:
Drop the EQ
Drop the d-bol
Drop the winny
Drop the Primo
Drop the Nandrolone
Drop the Masteron
Drop the Tren
Dont stay on for 18 friggin weeks.

Lower the Test, I guarantee that you'll still grow, and grow well, if your diet and training is nailed. This cycle is stupid.

What, exactly, do you eat in a day? I'm not interested in your calculation of kcals, just list an average day.

[kronik420]

OP won't be back..