cutting clen eca

[honeyking]

hello people!
92kg,6ft,18% bodyfat and now i'm going to cut to 10% in 2months
macros would be 250p,100c,60f now i have used clen,t3 and eca in past but never stacked them together

w1-2 clen
w3-4 eca(will start after 2 days and will end 2 days before- 10days)
w5-6 clen
w7-8 eca

Is it a effective stack? anyone used it in past? will it burn my muscle too??

i will be working out 6 days a week with 6 days weight training and 20min cardio after weights!

[GWiz2013]

hello people!
92kg,6ft,18% bodyfat and now i'm going to cut to 10% in 2months
macros would be 250p,100c,60f now i have used clen,t3 and eca in past but never stacked them together

w1-2 clen
w3-4 eca(will start after 2 days and will end 2 days before- 10days)
w5-6 clen
w7-8 eca

Is it a effective stack? anyone used it in past? will it burn my muscle too??

i will be working out 6 days a week with 6 days weight training and 20min cardio after weights!

You shouldn't stack them together. Clen and ECA hit the same beta receptors. Those 2 weeks off after a 2 week clen cycle is to let your receptors recover. Using ECA in the middle is counterproductive. Stick with one

[honeyking]

You shouldn't stack them together. Clen and ECA hit the same beta receptors. Those 2 weeks off after a 2 week clen cycle is to let your receptors recover. Using ECA in the middle is counterproductive. Stick with one

but sir i will be using ketotifen also!

[bigsiv]

but sir i will be using ketotifen also!

Then you don't need the 2 week break from clen so stick with that drop eca. If you aren't in any anabolics the t3 will attack your muscle it's not very choosy.

[ScotchGuard02]

Take clen and keto, drop the eca. Take clen/keto until you hit your goal. Good luck.

[magic32]

Actually both work via the same mechanisms, so you're essentially running a singular 8-week cycle, coincidentally the same goes for Albuterol. However, and contrary to popular theory, this is neither a bad nor incorrect methodology, it is merely an alternative one. Individuals naturally receive varying results, and Anthony's original Clen profile (which has since been removed) accurately recommends continuous cycling, and even depicts a mild anabolic affect by week 6 (based on accumulation) which is wholly supported by the preponderance of research literature.

Despite all that, or maybe in spite of it, this practice has fallen (for the time being) out of vogue, and given way to the 2 weeks on/off protocol which has somehow become the norm. Both Keto and 1st gen antihistamines (like Benadryl) are designed to cleanse the beta receptors (where allergens accumulate, and which incidentally serve as the absorption points for both compounds), to effectively extend usage. In the final analysis, just monitor your individual effects (how long mental stimulation, warming sensation, tremors, etc. last) and cycle off when they diminish to inacceptable levels.

Point of emphasis: The main key is not to chase the high with excessive dosages of either compound: ramp up; max out; plateau; and discontinue.

[bigsiv]

^^^^^^good post

[Back In Black]

8% in 8 weeks? Regardless of your compounds you are gonna have to eat at a big enough calorie deficit that will, ultimately lead to a substantial loss of LBM, IMHO.

Good luck, you're gonna need it.

[BR0DIE]

Look into SARMs as a way of stopping muscle catabolism on a cut, you're going to lose quite a bit of LBM if you cut so aggressively. Ostarine @ 12.5mg ED would be a good choice, it may even give you a slight recomp effect.

[Lunk1]

I would like to see the diet that allows an 8% drop in 60 days with only 20 min. of cardio!

[jimmyinkedup]

I would like to see the diet that allows an 8% drop in 60 days with only 20 min. of cardio!

I have dropped more in much less time with very little cardio.
CKD

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^^^^good post

I agree....all except the benadryl part.
Ketotifen = yes / benadryl - no

[Lunk1]

I have dropped more in much less time with very little cardio.
CKD

Show me the way Obi Wan Kenobi

[bigsiv]

I agree....all except the benadryl part.
Ketotifen = yes / benadryl - no

I've heard Benadryl was good but more fir sleeping is that true Jimmy?

[jimmyinkedup]

I've heard Benadryl was good but more fir sleeping is that true Jimmy?

It will definitely help you sleep - but it wont do anything to "cleanse" the beta receptor.
Keto will do both.

[bigsiv]

It will definitely help you sleep - but it wont do anything to "cleanse" the beta receptor.
Keto will do both.

Cheers jimmy