looking for some first cycle/diet advice and opinions please.

[littleman22]

Hi guys just looking for some friendly advice not looking to get shot down in flames or anything like that lol may seem like a long post but every time i read on forums someone complains about not enough information so iv just given every bit of info i can, iv done my research to the best of my ability and just want a 2nd opinion on cycle/training/diet please. Il explain everything in a moment...im planning on a simple test e 12 week cycle but just want to make sure everythings in check..
Stats:
Age 22
Height 5 foot 5 inches.
Weight 162-165lb depending on time of day.
Bodyfat between 8 and 12%
Been training on and off from 16-19 wasted abit of time with shit diet not training legs or core ect but still went to gym 3 days a week, i slipped a disc in my lower back at work did no training no work and diet was terrible for over 18 weeks and ended up 130lb at 19 i was just under 8 stone even now i still get twinges in my lower back through to my pelvis area when deadlifting and stiff leg deads but i just stop, i started researching proper training/diet went to physio therapy and started again just before 20 consistently training 4 days a week and dieting 6/7 days a week sometimes cheat and have sunday dinner or a pizza saturday night. I dont drink beer what so ever either.

Heres the cycle:
1-12 500mg per week test E split into two shots a week
1-12 arimidex 0.5mg ed
1-12 provion 50mg ed

PCT
clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
Will be adding zinc,bcaas and creatine throughout and after pct.

Would anyone add d-bol for the first 4 week to kick start? With proper AIs diet and cardio is in place how bad is the water retention? Another route i was thinking was weeks 1-8 anavar 80-100mg ed just to make sure my gains are lean and no water but im aware that diet determines this but from what i understand anavar helps to stay lean, but im not sure i dont want to overkill on first cycle? Im aiming for lean gains from this cycle/year i have no intention of walking round carrying water.

Heres my daily diet i know its very repetative and some will probably say its boring so im well open to suggestions but i can only cook/prep night before dont have no cooking facilities or anything at work im a pipelayer/groundworker so i just eat sat in the works van most days, but with me working away from home all week i buy the same food everyweek and dont really mind eating the same shit different day everything else seems that way been away from home.

6:30 am
2 scoops whey protein
5 oat cakes little bit of jam spread on them (there seriously dry lol)
50g of almonds

10.00am
2 slices of whole grain bread
100g of beef/turkey/chicken(depending on the day)
4 boiled eggs no yolk
4 oat cakes little bit of jam
50g cashew nuts.

2.00pm
2 slices whole grain bread
100g beef/turkey/chicken
4 boiled eggs no yolk
4 oats cakes little bit of jam
Greek yoghurt


5.00pm (pre workout)
200g pasta and chicken or 2 slices whole grain with 100g beef/turkey/chicken
4 oat cakes with jam
3 slices of malt loaf

6.30pm(post workout)
3 scoops whey protein

7.30-8.00pm
Large baked potato
1 1/2 Tins of tuna mixed with 2 scoops of light mayo

10.30-11.00pm
2 scoops whey protein before bed
Sometines have peanut butter on toast but not every night.

Thats my diet at the moment im wondering how i should adjust it when i cycle? Iv been slowly gaining from this diet but im assuming an extra 500 to 1000 cals a day would be needed to compensate for the gear? Im hoping my appetie will go up as i gain weight because at the moment im struggling to eat more but like i said previous i dont really want any fat gain, id be happy to drop bf to 7-10ish while putting on 8-10lb of muscle but have to see what happens i suppose.

My training looks like this

Monday: quads/hamstrings/abs
Tuesday: chest/bicep
Wednesday: off
Thursday: back/abs
Friday: shoulder/tricep

Well thats everything i think...i was thinking of 10-20 mins cardio while on cycle but whats your guys opinion? all exercises are done between 8-12 reps short rest periods thanks alot to anyone who took the time to read my post and reply i appreciate all the help and advice i can get.

[MickeyKnox]

You're still a bit young. But it appears as though you're going to do this regardless of what i say. So in the event that you do, please take a look at this thread. It has everything you need to develop a solid cycle including a solid PCT.

Your AI is too much for this cycle. .25mg EOD is fine. Titrate up from there if necessary. Always start low and work up - not the other way around.

Also, your PCT is weak and needs to be adjusted.


**Most Common Beginners Cycles**

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

[littleman22]

Thanks very much for reading and replying i appreciate it, il drop the adex dose and follow that pct you have written on your thread when i come to do my cycle i wont be starting till july i go on holiday in june i could cycle before holiday but i wont get proper nutrition or training while away although il do my best it wont be as good so i dont want to waste my cycle. Im intrested that you say im too young everywere else i read on the net and in books they recommend 21 but also on alot of other forums they tell you what you want to hear not what you need to know thts why i posted here, could i ask why you recommend 25 when everywere else is 21? Regardless of what you think il follow your advice if you say its best wait till 25 il do so first hand experience always beats text books ect...what your opinion on a d-bol kickstart? Thanks again.

[ScotchGuard02]

At 25 there is a high confidence level that your endocrine system has totally matured/developed. Messing with your endo can cause all kinds of problems in the future. It's really not worth it. I've seen lots of guys on the forum and at 21 they can't keep an erection or ejaculate because of steroids use. Man, are muscles worth THAT much? A lot of these pains can be avoided by simply waiting a few years and training naturally. Steroids is not a replacement for natural development. It is just an aid. The more performance you can achieve before you get on steroids the higher you will achieve with steroids. Be safe, be patient.

[MickeyKnox]

Thanks very much for reading and replying i appreciate it, il drop the adex dose and follow that pct you have written on your thread when i come to do my cycle i wont be starting till july i go on holiday in june i could cycle before holiday but i wont get proper nutrition or training while away although il do my best it wont be as good so i dont want to waste my cycle. Im intrested that you say im too young everywere else i read on the net and in books they recommend 21 but also on alot of other forums they tell you what you want to hear not what you need to know thts why i posted here, could i ask why you recommend 25 when everywere else is 21? Regardless of what you think il follow your advice if you say its best wait till 25 il do so first hand experience always beats text books ect...what your opinion on a d-bol kickstart? Thanks again.

At 25 there is a high confidence level that your endocrine system has totally matured/developed. Messing with your endo can cause all kinds of problems in the future. It's really not worth it. I've seen lots of guys on the forum and at 21 they can't keep an erection or ejaculate because of steroids use. Man, are muscles worth THAT much? A lot of these pains can be avoided by simply waiting a few years and training naturally. Steroids is not a replacement for natural development. It is just an aid. The more performance you can achieve before you get on steroids the higher you will achieve with steroids. Be safe, be patient.

Along with Marcus's template on young AAS users, I think ScotchGuard summed it up nicely. It really is about two key important issues.

And they are;

Your Endocrine system being fully developed along with your growth plates being closed.

And being mature and responsible enough to run an intelligent well planned out cycle with the least amount of AAS (oils/pills) that produces the desired results. For some this can be VERY confusing particularly when mislead by other young immature AAS users.

As far as a kicker goes, just ensure that you include UDAC or NAC to assist with liver support.

[littleman22]

Thanks for the input guys think il leave it for a couple of years then just to be on the safe side im still making gains there just slow....could you help me with my diet at all to improve gains..? Mickey when i do come to cycle in the future would the dbol flood me with water? From what iv read its terrible for water retention and gains are quite shit on it but the only reason im intrested in dbol is because of how fast acting it is and the good feeling you get while takin it, this is what ive read by the way i have no first hand experience with aas. Have you tried dbol before? Thanks again.

[MickeyKnox]

Thanks for the input guys think il leave it for a couple of years then just to be on the safe side im still making gains there just slow....could you help me with my diet at all to improve gains..? Mickey when i do come to cycle in the future would the dbol flood me with water? From what iv read its terrible for water retention and gains are quite shit on it but the only reason im intrested in dbol is because of how fast acting it is and the good feeling you get while takin it, this is what ive read by the way i have no first hand experience with aas. Have you tried dbol before? Thanks again.

Yes it would and yes i have. If you want my opinion i would do Var for a kicker - it doesn't aromatise and the gains are lean, provided your diet is in check.

[littleman22]

Thanks alot mate il bare that in mind for the future whats your thought on var vs winny? Sorry if im bombarding you with questions iv only ever read about aas havnt spoke to anyone about it before..thanks again.

[MickeyKnox]

Its best to give them a quick read to gain some basic understanding first. Then if you have questions feel free to fire way.

http://www.steroid.com/Winstrol.php

http://www.steroid.com/Anavar.php