Need opinions with this routine,,, stressing out

[Blackmambar]

Hi again,

Initially I was keen on this Dorian Yates routine posted on this forum which was basically:
Chest and Bi
Back
Off
Delts and Tris
Legs
Off
Repeat.

The key is only 1 min rest between sets and only one working set per exercise etc...
I felt like this gave me a massive pump at the gym but dam, the next day I wasn't even remotely sore, specially on the tris, they were pumped like a balloon but the next day they were ready to go again.
For me I think going heavy is the way to go.
Anyway, I like the idea of this routine:
Chest and Shoulders
Back and Tris
rest
Shoulders and Chest
Tris and Back
Legs
rest
Repeat

At least I get to do everything (except legs which I cant fathom doing twice) twice a week.
Also is high intensity really the way forward to build muscle compared to resting in between sets and smashing heavy... it really feels like a better workout going heavy...

[clarky.]

What about the bi's ?

[RipOwens]

Is that chest and tri's on consecutive days? I don't know about that.

[Blackmambar]

What about the bi's ?

bi's get enough work with back.

[AD]

you can try going even heavier on your work set. or increase to 2 worksets instead of just one, still following the 1min rest between sets.

[tigerspawn]

If your set with these muscle group pairing I would suggest switching order they are done in. I would do back and tris than chest and shoulders. Also, I would work shoulders out first on chest and shoulder day. Shoulders and tris are accessory muscles used in benching so it’s important to work them out first. Pre-exhaustion of the shoulders and tries will force the pectorals to work harder when lifting weight.

[gmantheman]

If your set with these muscle group pairing I would suggest switching order they are done in. I would do back and tris than chest and shoulders. Also, I would work shoulders out first on chest and shoulder day. Shoulders and tris are accessory muscles used in benching so it’s important to work them out first. Pre-exhaustion of the shoulders and tries will force the pectorals to work harder when lifting weight.

I always thought it wasn't a good a idea to work accessory muscle groups before primary. Wouldn't it better to do maybe flys then bench and lateral raises then shoulder press?

[tigerspawn]

Guess I should have asked what his training what his training experience is because beginners should not attempt to incorporate the pre-exhaust techniques. Also, intermediates should use caution in regard to frequency when using pre-exhaustion training techniques. However, advanced trainers should use pre-exhaustion to suit their needs for desirable hypertrophic growth.

I’m ISSA certified and have been a PT for 6yrs. My clients have had awesome successes when I have had them use pre-exhaust training techniques. Plus I have been training for 8 yrs and have used the techniques myself and it has helped blast my chest.

If you don’t believe me research pre-exhaustion techniques.

[gmantheman]

I don't every seen or read about pre-exhaust techniques like you mentioned but I have seen them for the same body part by doing isolation first and then the compound. I will look up the pre-exhaust techniques you mentioned. Guess you never stop learning.