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    test 400 cycle + pct opinions?

    Started my first cycle ever of test 400 2 weeks ago. I take 2ml a week (one shot Monday, one shot Thursday, each 1ml)

    Weeks 1-12 (test 400, 2 ml/week)
    weeks 14-18 (Nolvadex, 20 mg/day)
    weeks 14-18 (Liquid Clomid)

    How much Liquid Clomid should I take? is 20mg a day of Nolvadex enough?

    Stats:
    25 year old male
    6”2’
    215 Lb’s
    14% body fat
    Bodybuilding exp: 3 years.

    Thanks for your time.
    Last edited by Balls_Deep87; 03-21-2013 at 03:00 PM.

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    You need to check pct start times. You won't wana start serms while on. Not sure what test 400 is however. What always worked for me was nolva clomid 40/40/20/20. 100/100/50/50 assuming your not a troll

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    So 800mg/wk? Seems like quite a bit for a first cycle, which is your 'golden' cycle. Meaning you can use less and expect alot more out of it.

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    Hey man!

    0.5cc twice a week = 400mg/week! Plenty for first run.

    Remember more is not always better! Grow to your dosages!

    Your PCT should start 21days after last shot because of decanoate ester in your blend!

    Week 16-19

    Clomid/ 50/50/50/25
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Last edited by Gaspaco; 03-21-2013 at 12:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Hey man!

    0.5cc twice a week = 400mg/week! Plenty for first run.

    Remember more is not always better! Grow to your dosages!

    Your PCT should start 21days after last shot because of decanoate ester in your blend!

    Week 16-19

    Clomid/ 50/50/50/25
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    k thanks. So thats 0.5/ml shots twice a week? is that correct? And yes thanks to you guys, i'll be starting my pct 21 days after last shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balls_Deep87 View Post
    Started my first cycle ever of test 400 2 weeks ago. I take 2ml a week (one shot Monday, one shot Thursday, each 1ml)

    Weeks 1-12 (test 400, 2 ml/week)
    weeks 8-14 (Nolvadex, 20 mg/day)
    weeks 8-14 (Liquid Clomid)

    How much Liquid Clomid should I take? is 20mg a day of Nolvadex enough?

    Stats:
    25 year old male
    6”2’
    215 Lb’s
    14% body fat
    Bodybuilding exp: 3 years.

    Thanks for your time.
    I dont think youre ready to cycle. You clearly have no idea what youre doing. These numbers and names to you, are just that. I dont believe for a second you know what their roles are and why they are used.

    Before you begin i highly recommend you read a LOT more than what you already have, or have not, specifically the associated roles of each compound intend on putting into your body and why. This is a very important part of understanding AAS. Its not good enough to simply copy a cycle down and run it.

    I hope that you take some time and research lot more before you begin your proposed cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    I dont think youre ready to cycle. You clearly have no idea what youre doing. These numbers and names to you, are just that. I dont believe for a second you know what their roles are and why they are used.

    Before you begin i highly recommend you read a LOT more than what you already have, or have not, specifically the associated roles of each compound intend on putting into your body and why. This is a very important part of understanding AAS. Its not good enough to simply copy a cycle down and run it.

    I hope that you take some time and research lot more before you begin your proposed cycle.
    Well that's why I'm here. And I have read up on Nolvadex, liquid clomid and test on and off for over a year now. What should I be researching specifically? Do you know of any useful links? And I did start my cycle at 2ml of test 400 once a week (mon/thurs) But I'm going to tone is down to 1ml a week. If I'm not ready for a cycle do you propose I just stop right now cold turkey about 3 weeks in? I heard for your first cycle ever you should only run test only, which I've been doing. And Now i'm trying to learn as much as possible about the PCT since I don't have to start that for awhile now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balls_Deep87 View Post
    Well that's why I'm here. And I have read up on Nolvadex, liquid clomid and test on and off for over a year now. What should I be researching specifically? Do you know of any useful links? And I did start my cycle at 2ml of test 400 once a week (mon/thurs) But I'm going to tone is down to 1ml a week. If I'm not ready for a cycle do you propose I just stop right now cold turkey about 3 weeks in? I heard for your first cycle ever you should only run test only, which I've been doing. And Now i'm trying to learn as much as possible about the PCT since I don't have to start that for awhile now.
    Why yes, yes i do.

    Start with these..


    Cycles Gone Wrong for the Young

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UL2db2fX_fs

    The Young and Steroids

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UHBeIa7X_fs

    When you SHOULDN'T use AAS

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UMTqoqzX_fs


    Then if you still intend on cycling, you can move forward with these..


    Nutritional Forum

    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.UHNufa7X_fs

    Dieting 101: Cutting

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...g#.ULOnV2fX_ft

    Dieting 101: Lean Bulking

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UMy5cKzX_fs

    Vitamins Thread

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...d#.UN_vm6zX_fs

    Educational Threads

    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...S#.TzgpVFF3k34

    Steroid Guide

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...e#.TzkpD1F3k34

    Proper PCT YouTube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egOu9b_FmQE

    Atominis Liver Toxicity Thread

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Y#.UJEwMWfX_fs

    *Aromasin (Exemestane) vs Arimidex (Anastrozole) Unraveled*

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UUTQiDcUX0E

    Why HCG is So Important

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UIlhVWfX_ft

    hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJWP6mfX_fs

    Why It's Important To Run An AI

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UMPClazX_ft

    SERM, AI Definition

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-AI-Definition

    Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t#.UJSEImfX_fs

    The Importance of Estrogen - Keeping It In Check

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...k#.UUXQfDcUX0E

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    hahahaha......

    Furthermore, i see no HCG or AI?

    Nevermind, i see MK added those as well.

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    Enjoy the reading... Soak it all up!

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    [QUOTE=MickeyKnox;6457381]Why yes, yes i do.


    Thanks. I'm ending my cycle right now, until I know more. I ran 2ml a week for 3 weeks of test 400, what kind of side effects could occur from this? What should I be taking now? I'm starting Arimidex tomorrow. How much should I be taking? And should I still go ahead with the Nolvadex and Liquid Clomid in a few weeks? Should I run HCG starting tomorrow?

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    [QUOTE=Balls_Deep87;6457480]
    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Why yes, yes i do.


    Thanks. I'm ending my cycle right now, until I know more. I ran 2ml a week for 3 weeks of test 400, what kind of side effects could occur from this? What should I be taking now? I'm starting Arimidex tomorrow. How much should I be taking? And should I still go ahead with the Nolvadex and Liquid Clomid in a few weeks? Should I run HCG starting tomorrow?
    Dude...read the links.

    I put them up for you, not me. Dont be lazy, no one here likes that - especially when i just spoon fed you. Sheesh..

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    And here's one more to give you an idea of PCT protocols, including timing..


    **Most Common Beginners Cycles**

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

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    [QUOTE=MickeyKnox;6457483]
    Quote Originally Posted by Balls_Deep87 View Post

    Dude...read the links.

    I put them up for you, not me. Dont be lazy, no one here likes that - especially when i just spoon fed you. Sheesh..
    I know. but i've only did a 3 week cycle. Should I just do the PCT for an 8-12 week cycle still?

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    [QUOTE=Balls_Deep87;6457490]
    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post

    I know. but i've only did a 3 week cycle. Should I just do the PCT for an 8-12 week cycle still?
    Read the damn links before you mess yourself up!!

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    [QUOTE=MickeyKnox;6457503]
    Quote Originally Posted by Balls_Deep87 View Post

    Read the damn links before you mess yourself up!!
    I am. Thanks for the info. I got a lot of reading to do. Thanks for waking me up.

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