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    Cycle Advice with gyno history

    G'day fellas,

    Stats:
    40yrs
    180cm
    85kg
    13%BF
    Cycle History: Make mistake incorrectly using Stanazol/Deca in my mid 20’s not using test as base and no AI or Hcg. Subsequently had Gyno surgery. I remember my surgeon stating they left some in to prevent concave area below nipple.

    A couple of months ago my Dr put me on 250 Test E every 2-3 weeks due to borderline low test and I upped it for 6 weeks at 125mg Sus and 100mg Deca per week while stockpiling pharma Test E in an attempt to assist with recovery from shoulder operation a few months earlier. In short I guess I freaked out due to sensitivity as I felt a pea size lump developing under my nipple. Jumped on Nolva immediately 40/20/20 and pea has gone. At the time I believed the old gyno became sensitive while a new one was forming.

    Some other members in particular Kel kindly provided some advice and I stopped, did some research and came to conclusion not to muck about with TRT dosing especially when Dr made no mention of AI or HCG.

    For further information the Ultrasound came back negative for gyno…weird as I can definitely still feel what I think is the old gyno. Also a week after stopping the nolva blood work showed I was at upper limit of range in estrogen 134 pmol/L (55-165). A couple of days into the 4th week of the above mentioned attempt at TRT my Test was 49 nmol/L (5-25) and Free Test was 139 pmol/L (60-130). Just had baseline blood drawn yesterday.

    Trained naturally for last for over 10yrs consistently for last 6yrs weights/running.
    Diet is clean

    So having written all that I now have some goodies but would like a some input from you good knowledgeable members out there.

    Proposed cycle:
    Gear-
    Week 1-6 Sus 250 @ 500mgs Tue/Fri
    Week 7-12 Test E (pharma) @ 500mgs Tue/Fri
    Week 1-4 Dbol 20mg ed
    Week 1-15 Aromasin @ 12.5 ed
    Weeks 2-6 HcG @ 250iu Mon/Thu
    Weeks 8-12 HcG @ 250iu Mon/Thu

    PCT
    Weeks 15-19 Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Weeks 15-19 Nolva 40/40/20/20

    I’m a bit concerned with dosing the Aromasin as I have 25mg tabs and possibly crashing my E2. Unless I muck around and try to cut them into quarters?
    Can do Week 1-14.5 Hcg but the above works out with training partner and was also concerned at desensitization issues despite being 250iu

    Cheers in advance.

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    Hcg week 1-14.5.
    Aromasin 12.5mg ed is good.

    I would add some liver protection supps any time i use an oral.

    Side note: Make sure your shoulder joint, muscles and ligaments are strong. If not, you could risk injury on cycle.

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    I would drop the sust and just use then E IMO. You have to pin sust eod to get full benefit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Provita View Post
    Hcg week 1-14.5.
    Aromasin 12.5mg ed is good.

    I would add some liver protection supps any time i use an oral.

    Side note: Make sure your shoulder joint, muscles and ligaments are strong. If not, you could risk injury on cycle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fllifter View Post
    I would drop the sust and just use then E IMO. You have to pin sust eod to get full benefit
    I agree with both these comments.

    AS far as the Aromasin is concerned, 12.5 per day is perfectly fine. My recommendation for 10mg refers to the use of tabs. I will edit my thread to include 12.5mg ED when using Liquid Stane. Thank you for pointing that out in PM Zoltan.

    Cheers and good luck.

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    Thanks guys for the input.

    I should have mentioned I have milk thistle, vitamin C and trying to find Tauroursodeoxycholic acid (TUDCA) at the moment here in Aus but difficult to find.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltan40 View Post
    Thanks guys for the input.

    I should have mentioned I have milk thistle, vitamin C and trying to find Tauroursodeoxycholic acid (TUDCA) at the moment here in Aus but difficult to find.

    Cheers
    If you find TUDCA, MT is not necessarily, imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post

    If you find TUDCA, MT is not necessarily, imho.
    Okay. Thanks Mickey

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