will knee straps help

[andyknown]

About 10 years ago I was squating and I hyper extended my knee a bit and heard a sound of something stretch. Of course I never went to doctor....fast forward till now.....it doesn't always bother me but when I squat it can flare up like a bizitch. I can do leg press just fine....maybe a little pain. But square a whole diff story. Do u think just adding knee straps will help? I have a physical job where I walk up and down a ramp going into a tractor trailer all day and also sometimes flares up then but not too much....just wondering..thanks

[ironbeck]

will knee wraps help? Yes, but what will they be helping you do???think about it for a second, they are going to allow you to use more weight on an obvious injured knee. So if your to much of a tough guy or to lazy to get it fixed now...just wait until you can't walk and require full blown reconstructive surgery, as compared to a simple arthroscopic which only takes days on crutches........

[Times Roman]

knee straps help in the short term.

sounds like it's time you begin exploring other options too.

1st: 5 grams MSM a day, forever....

(it helps improve collegen synthesis, and reduces joint pain - I've been using it for 15 years)

[andyknown]

I've been to the doc several times and they keep telling me it is tendenitious...since its not there all the time. Guess I should tell them give me x-ray or mri on it

[Times Roman]

I've been to the doc several times and they keep telling me it is tendenitious...since its not there all the time. Guess I should tell them give me x-ray or mri on it

that's what I would do

[FONZY007]

knee straps help in the short term.

sounds like it's time you begin exploring other options too.

1st: 5 grams MSM a day, forever....

(it helps improve collegen synthesis, and reduces joint pain - I've been using it for 15 years)

What is MSM? I would like to use since I have knee problems surgery on both 2 times

[Times Roman]

What is MSM? I would like to use since I have knee problems surgery on both 2 times

to give you a little background....

....MSM is widely available at feed stores. in the past, race horses put out to pasture/stud quite often had joint problems. Somehow it was discovered that giving a race horse MSM will reduce their arthritic joint pain. From an observational standpoint, the horses bbecome friskey again, and will romp and play in the fields, where they had not been doing so previously. in fact, many experienced horse owners use MSM on their older horses. It is extremely inexpensive.

....msm is a sulphuric based compound and stands for Methylsulfonylmethane. It promotes collegen synthesis, and I believe is a mild anti inflamatory.

....I take somewhere between 5 and 10 grams a day, and have been doing so for over 15 years. Because it improves collegen synthesis, one of the sides, claimed by many, is a more robust, natural growing finger/toe nail. This means you need to clip them more frequently.

You can also read abouut it on wiki here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane

Let me know if any other questions
---Roman

[FONZY007]

to give you a little background....

....MSM is widely available at feed stores. in the past, race horses put out to pasture/stud quite often had joint problems. Somehow it was discovered that giving a race horse MSM will reduce their arthritic joint pain. From an observational standpoint, the horses bbecome friskey again, and will romp and play in the fields, where they had not been doing so previously. in fact, many experienced horse owners use MSM on their older horses. It is extremely inexpensive.

....msm is a sulphuric based compound and stands for Methylsulfonylmethane. It promotes collegen synthesis, and I believe is a mild anti inflamatory.

....I take somewhere between 5 and 10 grams a day, and have been doing so for over 15 years. Because it improves collegen synthesis, one of the sides, claimed by many, is a more robust, natural growing finger/toe nail. This means you need to clip them more frequently.

You can also read abouut it on wiki here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane

Let me know if any other questions
---Roman

Where do u buy?

[tigerspawn]

Thanks Times Roman for the MSM tip. That should help alot.

[BG]

I wrap with anything over 315. If not my knees kill me, when wrapping they do get a little sore, but it definitly helps.

[Rwy]

to give you a little background....

....MSM is widely available at feed stores. in the past, race horses put out to pasture/stud quite often had joint problems. Somehow it was discovered that giving a race horse MSM will reduce their arthritic joint pain. From an observational standpoint, the horses bbecome friskey again, and will romp and play in the fields, where they had not been doing so previously. in fact, many experienced horse owners use MSM on their older horses. It is extremely inexpensive.

....msm is a sulphuric based compound and stands for Methylsulfonylmethane. It promotes collegen synthesis, and I believe is a mild anti inflamatory.

....I take somewhere between 5 and 10 grams a day, and have been doing so for over 15 years. Because it improves collegen synthesis, one of the sides, claimed by many, is a more robust, natural growing finger/toe nail. This means you need to clip them more frequently.

You can also read abouut it on wiki here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane

Let me know if any other questions
---Roman

Do you have cartilidge in your knees. I was just diagnosed with arthritis on top of already knowing i do not have any cartalidge and the doc said I had to stop with the squats. I am only doing leg presses and not going down all the way focusing on hamstrings and front quad raises. I already feel my quads shrinking but I have zero pain latelty

[Times Roman]

Where do u buy?

http://www.bulkfoods.com/search_resu...rch=fromSearch

Do you have cartilidge in your knees. I was just diagnosed with arthritis on top of already knowing i do not have any cartalidge and the doc said I had to stop with the squats. I am only doing leg presses and not going down all the way focusing on hamstrings and front quad raises. I already feel my quads shrinking but I have zero pain latelty

yes, i do. how do you know you do not have cartiledge in your knee? MRI?

There are a couple of other things you can do.

Your knee has a bursa. it's a fluid filled sack that sits between the two bones and absorbs impact pressure and aids in reducing friction. Every year, i go in and my doc pulls out this 2" needle filled with hyaluronic acid and injects 1ml each into both knees/bursa. I go back a week later for another two injections, and another week after that for my final two injections. This has really helped me significantly. It's like a "lube job" for the knee.

The other thing you can do is after having the xray/mri, go in and have your knees scoped. I had mine done mar 2012 and am really happy with the results.

Finally, if you truly have NO carteledge in your knee (seems unlikely), you may consider knee replacement. the tech is very good, and you'll be walking in two or three days.

Things to think abouut!

[Times Roman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyaluronic_acid

[Rwy]

http://www.bulkfoods.com/search_resu...rch=fromSearch



yes, i do. how do you know you do not have cartiledge in your knee? MRI?

There are a couple of other things you can do.

Your knee has a bursa. it's a fluid filled sack that sits between the two bones and absorbs impact pressure and aids in reducing friction. Every year, i go in and my doc pulls out this 2" needle filled with hyaluronic acid and injects 1ml each into both knees/bursa. I go back a week later for another two injections, and another week after that for my final two injections. This has really helped me significantly. It's like a "lube job" for the knee.

The other thing you can do is after having the xray/mri, go in and have your knees scoped. I had mine done mar 2012 and am really happy with the results.

Finally, if you truly have NO carteledge in your knee (seems unlikely), you may consider knee replacement. the tech is very good, and you'll be walking in two or three days.

Things to think abouut!

I 100% have very little to no cartilidge in my knees. I got the lubricant shots a couple of years ago but it didnt do much. I am actually going back again for them in two weeks. I started taking glucosimine and double knee replacements are def in my future but as per dr I am way too young

[Times Roman]

I 100% have very little to no cartilidge in my knees. I got the lubricant shots a couple of years ago but it didnt do much. I am actually going back again for them in two weeks. I started taking glucosimine and double knee replacements are def in my future but as per dr I am way too young

mate,

alot of docs are saying this, but the underlying theory is archaic. Knees are today lasting 15 to 20 years. Plus the pain/rehab from the operation is a very small percentage of what it used to be. After your knee replacement, you WILL be walking in 2 to 3 days. and in a couple of weeks, you will be high 90%.

Think of it this way. Your doctor is basically telling you to suffer through another 20+ years of knee misery so that your knees will only have to be replaced once.

But there is NO reason you cannot have your knees replaced a second time.

Personally, I feel your doc is giving you lame advice. If it were me, I'd shop around for a doc that would give me what I need.

My .02

[Rwy]

Thanks TR I am going to do a little research...

[Antonious]

http://www.bulkfoods.com/search_resu...rch=fromSearch

Just ordered 5 pounds for now, should last some time to see any difference

[tigerspawn]

RWY Im having same issues. Thanks to a work related injury I have very little cartilage in my right knee. I had surgery, did 4 months of PT and was told by physical therapist that I needed knee replacement.
I have seen seven different orthopedic specialists from five different offices and they all told me the same thing. They agree that I need a knee replacement. They all say that I’m too young and have to wait.
Times roman I asked them if I need one why can’t I have it now. They stated that with normal use a replacement typically last 20 years. The life expectancy of a replacement decreases with weight over 240 lbs. and high wear and tear. (Examples: body building, high levels of any standing cardio) Also the effectiveness of repeated surgeries decreases with each surgery.

[Times Roman]

RWY Im having same issues. Thanks to a work related injury I have very little cartilage in my right knee. I had surgery, did 4 months of PT and was told by physical therapist that I needed knee replacement.
I have seen seven different orthopedic specialists from five different offices and they all told me the same thing. They agree that I need a knee replacement. They all say that I’m too young and have to wait.
Times roman I asked them if I need one why can’t I have it now. They stated that with normal use a replacement typically last 20 years. The life expectancy of a replacement decreases with weight over 240 lbs. and high wear and tear. (Examples: body building, high levels of any standing cardio) Also the effectiveness of repeated surgeries decreases with each surgery.

OK. Worse case scenerio

Option 1: Go with knee replacement NOW
Pros:
*walk in 2 to 3 days
*90+% in a few weeks
*Big improvement in quality of life - ability to exercise moderately, no knee pain, not always thinking about knee pain
Cons:
*probably lasts 20 years, may need a second knee later on

Option 2: Wait 20 years and then replace knee
Pros:
*Delay Knee surgery for 20 years
Cons:
*Having to deal with Knee pain misery for the next 20 years until you do get it replaced.
*This will have a huge impact on your quality of life - knees will always hurt, your ability to exercise will be degraded



So the bottom line is this:

Do you want to go through a big pain for a short period of time, and then get relief for the rest of your life, with the outside chance you may need knees replaced again in 20 year, or...

would you prefer to be miserable for the next 20 years until the "doctors" say you are "old enough" for knee replacement

btw, many doctors believe that if your knees need to be replaced, then replace them. Age has nothing to do with it

my .02

---Roman

[tigerspawn]

Times I agree 100%. The problem is getting a doctor to do it. They told me they wouldn’t for the reasons above. Your right being in constant pain even with pain meds sucks. Having my knee replaced would fix that. The doctors agree that knee replacement would fix my problems. They just refuse to do it. I have been too all the ortho doctors or their groups in 50m mile radius and they all refuse. I have called all ortho doctors within 100 mi radius. They are all for it until I tell them my age, build, and hobbies. Eventually I am going to find someone to do it.

[Times Roman]

Times I agree 100%. The problem is getting a doctor to do it. They told me they wouldn’t for the reasons above. Your right being in constant pain even with pain meds sucks. Having my knee replaced would fix that. The doctors agree that knee replacement would fix my problems. They just refuse to do it. I have been too all the ortho doctors or their groups in 50m mile radius and they all refuse. I have called all ortho doctors within 100 mi radius. They are all for it until I tell them my age, build, and hobbies. Eventually I am going to find someone to do it.

some of this you may already have: (?)

Find an Orthopaedist - AAOS

American Association of Hip and Knee Surgeons - AAHKS

Call the medical society or association in your state. Ask it to refer you to a list of qualified doctors in your area. If you have already received a recommendation for a certain doctor, inquire into her record. Medical societies are responsible for licensing physicians within their state and verifying records. They also keep information about infractions, grievances and license revocations on file. While they might not recommend one specialist over another, they will know of any complaints or reprimands pending against physicians in your state. You'll find your state's medical society listed in the telephone book. You can also contact them online.

[tigerspawn]

Thanks. Yes I already have all that information. I have been working as nurse last 13 yrs. so have access to national data base. My friends that are doctors state it’s not the doctors that are saying no. Primarily it’s the hospitals telling them that they won’t allow it to be done in their facility.

[Times Roman]

Thanks. Yes I already have all that information. I have been working as nurse last 13 yrs. so have access to national data base. My friends that are doctors state it’s not the doctors that are saying no. Primarily it’s the hospitals telling them that they won’t allow it to be done in their facility.

My ortho was telling me that if the knee scope didn't work, then we can explore knee replacement. I just checked. You are 20 years younger than I. Which is probably why he didn't shut me down when I brought up the subject.

Well, you are definately on top of this.

The only other thing i can think of is this....

....tell your doc that you need a temporary disability plaque for your car because it is too painful to walk unnecessarily. At this point, it would be a document trail that you can reffer back to at a later date. I believe you can get three (3) temporary six (6) month plaques before you have to go with a permenant disability.

YOU NEED TO WORK THE SYSTEM MATE!!

....THE SQUEAKY WHEEL IS THE ONE THAT GET'S THE GREASE!!

Good luck!

---Roman

[tigerspawn]

Workers comp is already trying to say I’m disabled. They sent letter to hospital stating that "Pt. has same restrictions as someone who has lost their leg from the knee down. Pt. has same classification as someone who has lost leg from knee down. Pt. has permanent partial disability" I’m not disabled and refuse to be called such.