Eca and bulking

[EKFitness]

Simple question for someone who knows the answer i'm trying to put on weight, but i love ECA for preworkout. how difficult will this make it to put on the lbs?

disregard hunger from the equation.

thanks all

[austinite]

None at all. go for it Just keep eating.

[EKFitness]

None at all. go for it Just keep eating.

thank you!

[cj111]

I found caffeine/arginine to be a better combo. Do you get a buzz off eph?

[EKFitness]

I found caffeine/arginine to be a better combo. Do you get a buzz off eph?

good buzz on empty stomach at 25/200/81

[cj111]

crazy, that's the dose I take 3x aday when I'm cutting, and I feel nothing from it lol. Literally nothing, even when I go off of it for months, go back on it and still nothing.

[EKFitness]

crazy, that's the dose I take 3x aday when I'm cutting, and I feel nothing from it lol. Literally nothing, even when I go off of it for months, go back on it and still nothing.

try cycling off with Benadryl to clean receptors. this has worked for me. I never take stims to cut because I don't want to build a huge tolerance. just take primo lol.

[cj111]

Ya like I said Ive gone off for 6 months to a year at a time, and still nothing. Benadryl you say? Whats that all about

[EKFitness]

cleans your receptors, give it a try, don't take any stims and take 2 Benadryl a night for a week

[cj111]

Cool Ill give it a whirl, thanks

[bcaasdirty]

Bendaryl is proven to do nothing to upregulate fried Beta-2 receptors as it functions via a different pathway/mechanism (although the logic behind it makes sense). Keto seems to be the best route, although by simply taking time off they should refresh by themselves

Heres a good read:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UVTyrDdTOSo

[EKFitness]

that thread still suggests trying it though? I will try Keto! thanks

[bcaasdirty]

that thread still suggests trying it though? I will try Keto! thanks

no prob

I didn't get the same message as you did apparently lol. I have run benadryl (before reading this thread) and it DID help me sleep better if I dosed my final "serving" of ECA too close to bed, but that was the only perceived benefit I found.

I know the thread I posted is about clen, but clen and ECA are both Beta-2 Antagonists (albeit clen being more 'efficient' in beta-2 hammering), so the info in there will translate to ECA.

One common theme I've been seeing more often concerning beta-2 down-regulation through supplementation of eca/clen is they up-regulate much faster than is often thought. Simply taking time off (whether it be a week or 2) from beta-2 ant. should be sufficient to upreg the ole receptors.

[EKFitness]

no prob

I didn't get the same message as you did apparently lol. I have run benadryl (before reading this thread) and it DID help me sleep better if I dosed my final "serving" of ECA too close to bed, but that was the only perceived benefit I found.

I know the thread I posted is about clen, but clen and ECA are both Beta-2 Antagonists (albeit clen being more 'efficient' in beta-2 hammering), so the info in there will translate to ECA.

One common theme I've been seeing more often concerning beta-2 down-regulation through supplementation of eca/clen is they up-regulate much faster than is often thought. Simply taking time off (whether it be a week or 2) from beta-2 ant. should be sufficient to upreg the ole receptors.

I usually just take two weeks off and switch to something like jack3d.