First Cycle Ever. Need Some Guidance

[ctrem19]

HGT- 6'3
WGT- 210
BF%- 14
AGE- 20
Weightlifting Experience - 2 Years Amateur, 3 Years Serious
Food Break Down- 40/40/20
Calories 3500

Okay So i have been lifting weights for about 3 years now and have done a whole bunch of homework on hundreds of different topics. However, where my knowledge runs dry is here, anabolic steroid cycles and PCT. Always told myself i wouldn't, but after many threads Ive come to realize not taking advantage of something like this is just pointless. With Summer around the corner, im considering running a
Tren/ Test Prop/ Winny Cycle and was hoping to receive some guidance on this.

Test Prop | 50mg | (EOD) Week 1-10
Trenbolone | 75mg | (EOD) Week 1-8
Winstrol | 25mg | (ED) Week 6-10

So that is the cycle i plan on running. You may be wondering why such a low Test dose. I figured I'm 20 years old, I'm still young, so my test levels are still through the roof. If im mistaken about that let me know!

As for the Trenbolone, I figured 75mg should be fine for a first cycle especially from reading up on the hard side effects. Might even only run it Mon, Wed, Fri, instead of EOD

For the Winstrol, I'm still in between whether I should get the inject-able or the tablets. Do i need to buy some kinda of liver support if i choose to go with the tablets? If I go with the inject-able, should i find an oil based winny (if it exists) to take all in 1 shot with the test and tren?

I have experience with Clen and ECA stacks but was wondering if i could alternate the two, cycling every 2 weeks.

Lastly is the PCT. Seeing as i have never run a cycle like this ever, like any newbie i jumped right into the big guns (tren, winny, test) doing a whole bunch of research but am near clueless when it comes to what to take at what times for the PCT. Any and all information, please share your knowledge!

Lastly, I was planning on jabbing the quads only alternating them using 25ga 1" Needles to inject and 21ga 1 1/2" needles to draw.

Any Comments on the doses or cycle, Please inform me on anything! Any words of advice! Critiques! Comments! Questions! Concerns! Let me have it.

[MickeyKnox]

Take advantage of your natural test levels. Your natural testosterone levels are sky high right now. I would concentrate on taking advantage of that as you can make tremendous gains in following few short years.

It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing, and then perhaps look at using AAS.

Its also important to understand what it is your putting into your body and the associated roles these compounds play, and the dreaded side effects that are bound to creep up on you - especially if you didn’t do your homework. Otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a host of unwanted side affects including premature closure of your growth plates, Erectile Dysfunction, Gynecomastia (b*tch t*ts), and more..

The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.ULk5-mfX_fs

Cycles Gone Wrong for the Young

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UL2db2fX_fs

[MickeyKnox]

I just realized i selected the wrong vote! I mistakenly chose "Take Advantage" because i thought that meant take advantage of your own T levels!

Please disregard that vote!

[qscgugcsq]

Mickey said it all, however if you are willing to take the risk. at least do a good cycle...

that cycle may be good to an advanced aas user but its your first cycle...

500mg test / week that's plenty...

dont go with tren at your first run you will definitivly screw you up...

You should wait until at least 23, if you arent going to wait, at least wait until you know enough to do a responsible discision and be ready to accept the good of a cycle and the bad...

your call.

Good luck

[Capebuffalo]

Profile says 19.

[songdog]

I hit the wrong one too then.You needed to have that more clear.Beacuse no one here will give you the go ahead.You are just to young.And there is no need for it.

[songdog]

Mickey said it all, however if you are willing to take the risk. at least do a good cycle...

that cycle may be good to an advanced aas user but its your first cycle...

500mg test / week that's plenty...

dont go with tren at your first run you will definitivly screw you up...

You should wait until at least 23, if you arent going to wait, at least wait until you know enough to do a responsible discision and be ready to accept the good of a cycle and the bad...

your call.

Good luck

There is no such thing as a good cycle for a under age kid.You really need to quit giving advice.

[BBJT200]

I'd strongly suggest waiting. You have tons of free test in your system---you seem to be under the impression that you dont need to run much test in this cycle because you have a lot naturally.
When you take ANY anabolics, your natural test is shut down. so, you have little to no test.

If you refuse to wait, run test only.
I wish I had listened...jesus christ....
I used a bunch of different compounds, unsteady dosing, etc on my first run after getting on trt...and all it did was make me miserable and gain a bunch of body fat from overeating due to feeling miserable and depressed.
You will be happy with a test only run, the results will be amazing. A first cycle for anyone will yield amazing results--regardless what you use. stick to the basics, you'll be much better off

[qscgugcsq]

There is no such thing as a good cycle for a under age kid.You really need to quit giving advice.

If you think of letting him the choice is not a good advice its your call, however I believe in freewill.

I didnt advice him to do aas, but if he knows what he is risking and is ready to assume what will happen he should decide by himself...

And even if their is no "good" cycle for underage, their is some who are less suceptible to cause problems.
And refusing to answer his question wont do any good.

Better a bad idea than a ****ing bad idea...

[fit2bOld]

The question is confusing. No cycle is recommend.

[EyE]

I just realized i selected the wrong vote! I mistakenly chose "Take Advantage" because i thought that meant take advantage of your own T levels!

Please disregard that vote!

I hit the wrong one too then.You needed to have that more clear.Beacuse no one here will give you the go ahead.You are just to young.And there is no need for it.

When I saw you guys names under the "take advantage" I almost dropped dead, WTF?! but I understand the confusion..

dont do it OP.

[Sfla80]

If you think of letting him the choice is not a good advice its your call, however I believe in freewill.

I didnt advice him to do aas, but if he knows what he is risking and is ready to assume what will happen he should decide by himself...

And even if their is no "good" cycle for underage, their is some who are less suceptible to cause problems.
And refusing to answer his question wont do any good.

Better a bad idea than a ****ing bad idea...

This guy has been giving bad advise and disregarding advise given to him for a long time now. Please don't listen to me. You are way too young op

[mrmida]

Not the best choice of compounds for first cycle... Most here will agree that a low dosed test cycle would be ideal for your first.. Test cyp or ent 400-500 wk...

As you can see, not everyone feels that your old enough to be using aas.. I personally wish I waited until I was older as well, so I agree that you should hold out for a few years...

However.. You DIDNT ASK OUR OPINION on whether or not YOU'RE READY for your first cycle so I won't begin to preach! Right guys?

[crazy mike]

Well everyone is getting to the same basic thing about his age. I will direct my comment to the cycle. It is bad, it doesn't make for a good cycle at all. You don't seem to have a clue as to what you are doing so how did you come up with it. BBJT is correct even if your natural test is high you don't know what it is and it doesn't have to follow any rule of age but it may. When you take steroids you will shut your own system down so it doesn't matter.
AS far as tren , wow, if you are a virgin in ass you just might get freaked out. You need to stay away from that for when you have some experience and more training knowledge. All in all. please hold off you can do so, so much naturally and when you do aas you will gain so much more from it now. Oh Mon wed frid for Tren injections you will be up and down. . ....wait don't hurt yourself. ...crazy mike

[Granovich]

if you dont want to read this " young and steroid" read this
i did a cycle at 22 for 6 weeks. with PCT. couldnt recover. 3rd week of PCT i had horribe ED. couldnt even get it up ... lived the next year in misery and it never got better....
i went to see doctors and got blood work and my test was low and i got on HCG, and long extensive PCT and it got better a little bit... then it messed up my prolactin and i had to get cabergoline to get lower it and now i feel 80% better ( 3 years passed)
never fully healed and it will probably wont be better for rest of my life. of course all gains are gone even thou i ate right but i couldnt keep them because i interrupted my HPTA while i wasnt fully grown.
its a nightmare man, you cant work and you cant sleep at night . trust me!!!!
no one is invincible . it will break you if you do it....and i was 22 and you are only 20. you do not need that......do you want to have to live without being able to have sex without a viagra pill ?
have lower testosterone and thus lower energy and less ability to build muscle ?
all because of stupid cycle ?
do your self a favor and your future and dont do anything stupid that you will regret so bad later like i did

[lovbyts]

You have been weight lifting for 3 years. That's sort of like having your drivers license for 6 months and deciding you want to drive in NASCAR. You have plenty of natural growth left. Take advantage of it instead of jeopardizing it or your health. You have plenty of time ahead of you and if you focus on diet and training you can go far.

[Pumpyouupv2]

I just got my first bottle of Pituitary Growth Hormone when should i take the pills it just says take 2xpills daily. please help with any advice when to take them.

[songdog]

I just got my first bottle of Pituitary Growth Hormone when should i take the pills it just says take 2xpills daily. please help with any advice when to take them.

Start your own thread bro

[songdog]

If you think of letting him the choice is not a good advice its your call, however I believe in freewill.

I didnt advice him to do aas, but if he knows what he is risking and is ready to assume what will happen he should decide by himself...

And even if their is no "good" cycle for underage, their is some who are less suceptible to cause problems.
And refusing to answer his question wont do any good.

Better a bad idea than a ****ing bad idea...

Well please explain it to us with all your cycle experence!

[ctrem19]

So i let this sit for a couple days to get some replies.

Based on the reviews I have 3 options?
1. Don't take anything
2. Take only test prop alone
3. Don't start with tren.

Will dosing test prop alone shutdown my natural test production?

[stpete]

So i let this sit for a couple days to get some replies.

Based on the reviews I have 3 options?
1. Don't take anything
2. Take only test prop alone
3. Don't start with tren.

Will dosing test prop alone shutdown my natural test production?

Yes, it will. You need to educate yourself a bit more. The worst thing a person can do, especially at your age, is to start using compounds they have no idea about. You begging to be a TRT recipient at a very young age?

[OnTheSauce]

You'll be so much happier if u wait. Im 25 now and wish I would've gone further all natty.