should I take winstrol with my cycle of test or after?

[imouttie24]

I'm going to take ..Lixus Test 400

(Testosterone enanthate 150mg) (Testosterone cypionate 150mg) (Testosterone propionate 100mg)

400 mg/ml 10 mL Sterile Multidose Vial....I'm debating if Im going to do just one cycle or two of the test but then want to do a cycle or two of winstrol wincore 100 to get super cut..should I do test and win togother over should I finish my test cycle and then do winstrol? For my pct ill be taking clomid.. and will cycling ill be taking performance vitamns and liv-51 and fish oils pills..along with a lot of protein..and prework out...also would like to know when I should start my pct..since it has (Testosterone enanthate 150mg) (Testosterone cypionate 150mg) I should take the clomid two weeks after last dose for three weeks right? And was thinking of getting some natural test booster like test fx reloaded just cause..good or a waste of money? This will be my frist cycle and trying to do as much research as possible..any advice will help..if you could Break what I'm doing right and wrong down to me I would appreciate it.. little info about me..I turned 24 last month. I'm 6"2 ..weigh 220 with a size 39 waist..but wear size 34 jeans with a belt weird..arms are 17 1/2 inch my body fat is 15.3% to 15%..I work out five days week hour and half on weights a hour on abs and 45 on cardio..thanks..oh and my goal is about 10% body fat with about 20 inch arms and a kick ass six pack!

[Red Bastard]

AI?...
Don't start without it on hand!

[fit2bOld]

I want to know how to stuff a 39 waist into size 34 jeans?
Unless it like hangs over the top of the belt. In that case no way your 15% bodyfat.

[gearbox]

Well your goals are within reach in a couple years. But as I said above I think you're more about 22 percent body fat. Can we get maybe a front picture or your diet plan. Without a proper diet aas what do nothing for you. At 15 percent body fat you should see your upper abs at least!

[imouttie24]

No like the rope says its 39 but I wear 34 or 36 depending on the brand and I still have to wear a belt or they fall down..so I don't get it ether...I do have a really wide frame but shouldn't matter..but anyways back to my cycle questions haha

[imouttie24]

My goals are reachable with out juice in less than a year dude! ...What A1?...where are two pics..I just took the one with the fat and bmi reader and literally just did it after I had my lunch that's why its higher..ill do another on here in a couple hours..

[imouttie24]

[imouttie24]

Just took a shit and re did it..and I'm still full..

[imouttie24]

AI?...
Don't start without it on hand!

What's that?

[bigZthedestroyer]

Just took a shit and re did it..and I'm still full..

<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=137045"/>

Don't trust those at all.

[bigZthedestroyer]

What's that?

Aromatase inhibitor...you haven't put much research in have you? It helps combat e2 sides.

[imouttie24]

I have but there is always more to research..I was thinking of trenbolone enanthate 200mg instead of winstrol and for my pct Clomid..good or bad? I have a buddy who been cycling for 15 years and is a beast and is going to help me just want as much info as possible

[MistaHaze]

I see we completely disregarded everyone's advice about doing your homework and waiting to start until your educated... I see more n more why vets are disgruntled at times...

[jdubb1977]

Stay away from the tren. I know guys that have 10+ cycles under their belt and are still scared of tren. It's not something to "try". Keep reading treads and learn from others' mistakes. Once you're ready to do it right, Keep it simple. Test, an AI, and your PCT is all you really need for your first two or three cycles.

[mr.slippyfist69]

I'm just going to post my blood panels from after that tren/test cycle so these guys can see what it does to a guy at my age. God knows what it will do to someone under 25. Where should I post it?

[imouttie24]

I'm just going to post my blood panels from after that tren/test cycle so these guys can see what it does to a guy at my age. God knows what it will do to someone under 25. Where should I post it?

Was is bad or good?..my buddy has been doing it forever and loves it..he looks great also

[Beyazit]

Your buddy looks great on the outside and should be killin him self in the inside m8! Don't use another compound in your first cycle, just Test! And you got to be kiddin if you are talkin about tren m8!!!

Put an AI(Aromasin) and HCG(Pregnyl) in your cycle and enjoy your ride!

[gargar91]

You should probably only run the T on its own at the start and figure out your body and how it responds, if you run a bunch of compounds at the start and react bad to one how do you know what to remove without screwing with your cycle, will affect your gains and also put you off it.....also the test you chose is ok, but if your 15% I think you should only run prop as it Won't bloat of bulk you as much as cyp or eth, it usually comes in 100mg per ml bottles so take it EOD but beware it is like injecting battery acid a lot more painful than a eth or cyp but its quicker acting, hence the pain, trust me though its worth it, also it's like it gives you dryer hard gains which will suit you down to the ground with your bf% assuming you don't wanna be a power lifter haha

[Metal1877]

Not trying to be a smart ass but if you don't know what AI is, you have absolutely NO business touching anything until you properly research. DO YOURSELF A BIG FAVOR AND LISTEN

[OnTheSauce]

I'm just going to post my blood panels from after that tren/test cycle so these guys can see what it does to a guy at my age. God knows what it will do to someone under 25. Where should I post it?

Link me once u post it. Very interested