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    Advice for Second cycle - EQ & Test-e

    My first post, learning a lot from the forum and website but still would like some advice critique on my plan for my second cycle

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    Male, Age 30
    6’, 220lbs, 16% fat
    Typical mesomorph - with a little extra in the stomach area

    Did one short, 5 week test-e cycle about 4 years ago. Was generally happy – gained about 20 pounds in no time. A little too thick/water retention but I didn’t put the effort into it/dieting I should have. I honestly do not remember the dosage, but I remember it being on the low side. I did not have any major negative side effects besides some minor insomnia.

    I have been wanting to do a cycle for awhile and got some advice from a frequent user/doctor friend. With a knee jerk reaction, bought a vial of Test-E and Equipoise on his recommendation and it was recommended to me to do 300mg of each a week (2 injections of 150mg each per week). This would be about a 10 week cycle.

    Now I definitely want to get somewhat bigger, get some high quality gains – but nothing insane and I do want to eventually cut as well. Am not sure if I am asking too much of this cycle - or if I need to tweak something or add something. The profile for EQ on the main page of this site seems conflicting to me if it is good/bad/ok for cutting.

    So my main questions are:

    1. Does my dosage, cycle length make sense to you?

    2. Will some cutting be possible with this? Or should I add something like Winnie at the end of my cycle (such as last 5 weeks?)?

    Any other advice would be helpful as well

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    Cutting take place in the kitchen.

    Post your diet up in the Nutritional Forum if you need help with it.

    300mg/wk of EQ is useless.

    AI?

    hCG?

    PCT?

    Where are you on this chart?

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    OK. Thanks for the quick reply

    Where am I on the chart now? or where do I want to be?
    I am at 16% now, as I posted. 12% would be a nice goal eventually

    What would be a better dosage of EQ? 400?
    What about the test?

    Of course am open to and researching AI, PCT but wanted to get this done first

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    Ok. Good luck bro.

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    EQ is not very popular. It take a lot, like 800mg to 1000mg, to do anything. I think you'd be better off just going with 500mg/wk of Test alone. Test is King. For AI, look at .25mcg/eod of Arimadex. For PCT, look at 100mg/ed of clomid for 1st week then 50mg/ed for the next 3 weeks. Also, 40mg/ed of nolvadex for first week, 20mg/wk of nolvadex for the next 3 weeks. You might need some anti-acne also. Research and have fun.

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    As stated already EQ is worthless.

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    This site, most people hate EQ.
    In the actual real world I live in with plenty of guys that are big/ripped/smart/etc, suggest it all day long. There are other forums on the net where there are plenty of people that like it.

    What I like to do is research and talk to as many people as possible and make my own decision. In fitness, BB, gear, etc, you can ask 5 people the same question and get 10 different answers. I believe this is because everybody is different. So the more we know, the better our decisions will be.

    Bottom line, some love EQ, some don't. A couple of guys online say not to use it, while a doctor/friend told you it could be good...

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    ^ I seriously doubt that anyone taking EQ at an effective dose has decent blood work results. Most gains are typically from secondary compounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    ^ I seriously doubt that anyone taking EQ at an effective dose has decent blood work results. Most gains are typically from secondary compounds.
    I hear you, but just so I learn a little, can you please explain about the "decent blood work results?" I have read it raises blood pressure, but my blood pressure was fine on Test,EQ, & a fat burner for 5 weeks. I know these results are pretty much worthless because 5 weeks aren't enough time. (Made the mistake of starting first cycle without full cycle's worth & then couldn't get anymore EQ)

    I am very thankful for sites like this full of knowledgeable/experienced people willing to share and help, and the recorded data within, & the freedom that I can share my experiences & info. Thanks yall

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