Shoulders?

[thehor]

So right now I currently hit shoulder with back or sometimes on leg day. On Leg day its kind of a pain because I actually train my legs hard because I need more work on them. My question is how much sets do you guys normally do while working out shoulder on a high volume basis? Normally I do 30 mins about 12 sets 3 different workouts or sometime 3 sets of 4 different workouts. If 30 minutes good enough to get good results?

[Turkish Juicer]

I wouldn't really advice working shoulders on a back day or a leg day, this split brings about more disadvantages than any possible advantage it may have for you on multiple levels regarding overall development, risk of injuries (with the back split) and so forth. Best split would be shoulders-triceps IMO.

Regarding your question: I don't see how anyone can possibly get away with a high volume training shoulder routine that only lasts for 30 min. A solid shoulder workout, whether HIT or HVT, should consist of a minimum of 4 exercises. Whether 30 min is good enough to get good results solely depends on a set of variables such as genetics, overall conditioning, training frequency and etc.

[thehor]

What about Chest/shoulders?

[Turkish Juicer]

What about Chest/shoulders?

This would be a shortcut to suffering from a shoulder injury, since you asked...

[thehor]

So best would be either shoulder alone or shoulder and tris.

[Turkish Juicer]

So best would be either shoulder alone or shoulder and tris.

Exactly.

[tigerspawn]

Turkish has it covered

[BluPhin]

I wouldn't really advice working shoulders on a back day or a leg day, this split brings about more disadvantages than any possible advantage it may have for you on multiple levels regarding overall development, risk of injuries (with the back split) and so forth. Best split would be shoulders-triceps IMO.

Regarding your question: I don't see how anyone can possibly get away with a high volume training shoulder routine that only lasts for 30 min. A solid shoulder workout, whether HIT or HVT, should consist of a minimum of 4 exercises. Whether 30 min is good enough to get good results solely depends on a set of variables such as genetics, overall conditioning, training frequency and etc.

Whats your top 4 shoulder exercises?

[Turkish Juicer]

Whats your top 4 shoulder exercises?

1. Seated dumbell or machine shoulder press

2. Standing or seated lateral dumbell raise

3. Standing cable front raise

4. Seated cable face-pull exercise or rear fly machine

[lovbyts]

Do yourself a favor and warm up good before, during and after shoulder exercises with either bands or light cable. Rotator cuff exercises are good to help reduce the possibility of injury. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

[gearbox]

1. Seated dumbell or machine shoulder press

2. Standing or seated lateral dumbell raise

3. Standing cable front raise

4. Seated cable face-pull exercise or rear fly machine

Perfect four!!! Nice tj

[thehor]

Yesir.

[bigsiv]

Great exercises but personally I love the dumbbell upright row for the front delt. Awesome!