I am looking for people's experiences with juicers competing in natural shows. Things have changed since I was competing; I didn't compete in a single natural show where everyone was "natural". Hell, the overall winner of two local Muscle Mania shows was 5'9'', 220lbs with cut glutes. I never ran gear for Muscle Mania or other "natural" shows but I did for NPC competition. I guess I'm wondering if its still as dirty as it was; guys running gear for natural competition.