Testicular atrophy on HCG

[Drops]

Stats:
Weight - 197 lb
Height - 5'8"
Age - 26

I'm 4 weeks into a test E cycle (500 mg per week) and my balls feel shrunken and kinda mushy/soft, and they don't hang as much any more despite having used HCG from week 1 (500iu twice a week).

I inject HCG the same day as I inject my testosterone (mon/thur).

Now, I used up my first vial of 5000iu HCG, and when I preloaded another batch oof insulin syringes I tested it with a pregnancy test and it came positive, so the HCG should be working.

Any need to worry about this? Actually, the balls feel kind of normal when showering and they hang

[Sfla80]

I'm 4 weeks into a test E cycle (500 mg per week) and my balls feel shrunken and kinda mushy/soft, and they don't hang as much any more despite having used HCG from week 1 (500iu twice a week).

I inject HCG the same day as I inject my testosterone (mon/thur).

Now, I used up my first vial of 5000iu HCG, and when I preloaded another batch oof insulin syringes I tested it with a pregnancy test and it came positive, so the HCG should be working.

Any need to worry about this? Actually, the balls feel kind of normal when showering and they hang

Ok, how much HCG r u taking??? There should be no way u went through a 5000ius vial in 4 weeks.

[Drops]

Ok, how much HCG r u taking??? There should be no way u went through a 5000ius vial in 4 weeks.

1000iu per week.

[Granovich]

whats ur stats, how old are you ?

[Sfla80]

whats ur stats, how old are you ?

This^^^...and where did u get that number from??

[Granovich]

This^^^...and where did u get that number from??

i think he is shooting 500iu twice a week....assuming that mixing and measuring was correct

[MickeyKnox]

I'm 4 weeks into a test E cycle (500 mg per week) and my balls feel shrunken and kinda mushy/soft, and they don't hang as much any more despite having used HCG from week 1 (500iu twice a week).

I inject HCG the same day as I inject my testosterone (mon/thur).

Now, I used up my first vial of 5000iu HCG, and when I preloaded another batch oof insulin syringes I tested it with a pregnancy test and it came positive, so the HCG should be working.

Any need to worry about this? Actually, the balls feel kind of normal when showering and they hang

Where did you get your hCG from, what kind is it, and how was it handled from your supplier to you, and any information pertaining to reconstitution, refrigeration..ect?

[Drops]

You can look my profile for stats, my weight just went up by 12-13 lb though since I started my cycle

[MickeyKnox]

You can look my profile for stats, my weight just went up by 12-13 lb though since I started my cycle

OR..you can put them up if someone asks you for them. No one here is paid to help you my friend. So i advise you not to make people run around looking for YOUR information when YOU are the one looking for help. Granovich is not having a problem with his testicles, YOU are. Help him help YOU.

[Drops]

Where did you get your hCG from, what kind is it, and how was it handled from your supplier to you, and any information pertaining to reconstitution, refrigeration..ect?

It's Vitagon by Alpha Pharma, comes with 3 vials of 5000 iu. Not sure how it was handled or stored before I got it, but the powder form I have been storing it in a closet at room temperature.

It does say on package to store at 2-8C before and after reconstitution, but I figured it wouldn't matter much since I had no way of knowing how it had been storing before I even got it, and hear of plenty people storing the powder at room temperature.

I put the preloaded insulin syringes in the freezer. I tested it on a pregnancy test before putting them in the freezer though.

[ironbeck]

K it's real simple big guy, your HCG is working, your balls would probably much smaller with out it, just because your balls are not completely "normal" does not mean it's not working. Chances are your going to get some kind of testicular atrophy, even if if follow standard hgc protocol.It's a "supplement" if you will for your nutz lol. To help keep the "engine" in working order.

[ironbeck]

Know what I mean?

[Drops]

OR..you can put them up if someone asks you for them. No one here is paid to help you my friend. So i advise you not to make people run around looking for YOUR information when YOU are the one looking for help. Granovich is not having a problem with his testicles, YOU are. Help him help YOU.

Fair enough, added stats on the first post

[Sfla80]

1000iu per week.

Think everyone is missing this part of it.

Take 250ius twice a week man. Now I could be wrong but u are overloading with the hcg right now. 500 should be suffiecnt

[Drops]

K it's real simple big guy, your HCG is working, your balls would probably much smaller with out it, just because your balls are not completely "normal" does not mean it's not working. Chances are your going to get some kind of testicular atrophy, even if if follow standard hgc protocol.It's a "supplement" if you will for your nutz lol. To help keep the "engine" in working order.

Cool mate. I just assumed there would be no atrophy when using HCG

[Flier]

I still get a little atrophy on HCG.
The potency of your HCG is questionable since it has not been stored correctly.
HCG mimics LH, not FSH. They are both signal hormones produced by the pituitary during natural production to stimulate your leydigs. Have no idea if this could be the cause of some atrophy, but sounds good in theory.

[Drops]

How quick does it lose potency if any, when stored at room temperature before reconstitution?

[Flier]

How quick does it lose potency if any, when stored at room temperature before reconstitution?

Have no idea.
Picked up some couple of weeks ago. While chatting with the (rather attractive) pharmacist, I mentioned I was stopping by to pick up some groceries before heading home.
She said, don´t stop for too long, and keep the HCG in the coolest place of the car. So I placed it in the trunk.
(I didn´t have the courage to ask her out. I am such a pvssy sometimes!)

[Honkey_Kong]

They could be appearing smaller because the rest of you is getting larger. How are you sure that you're experiencing atrophy? Remember, the mind can play tricks on you.

[Flier]

They could be appearing smaller because the rest of you is getting larger. How are you sure that you're experiencing atrophy? Remember, the mind can play tricks on you.

Hehehe...no no, the only thing that makes the Penis larger is HGH, not HCG. Everybody knows that.

[Honkey_Kong]

Hehehe...no no, the only thing that makes the Penis larger is HGH, not HCG. Everybody knows that.

I'm not talking about your penis, I'm talking about the rest of your body. If your muscles start getting larger but your nads stay the same size, they can appear to be looking smaller eventhough they're not.

[Drops]

They could be appearing smaller because the rest of you is getting larger. How are you sure that you're experiencing atrophy? Remember, the mind can play tricks on you.

It's noticeable when ejaculating, my balls usually aren't retracting that much upwards. They look tiny when that happens, but other than that you don't really "see" it. They definitely feel kind of mushy or soft, no idea if that is normal when on HCG/AAS? Normally my balls aren't soft like they are now.

[ironbeck]

That's not normal your nutz r wacked man lol my balls are like cannon balls of Iron lol

[Drops]

That's not normal your nutz r wacked man lol my balls are like cannon balls of Iron lol

That's very reassuring... lol

To be honest I'm not that worried about it. I'm sure it'll get back to normal after, but still weird IMO.

[MickeyKnox]

First and foremost, we all metabolize differently.

However, 1000iu/wk of hCG will not desensitize you or any receptors. Having said that, i believe your hCG is not as potent as it could be. I do not atrophy at all when using hCG, and some of my lyophilized supply is almost a year old stored at room temps.

But since you dont appear to be atrophied that much, this indicates your hCG is working - just not up to full power, that's all.

No worries. Finish it up and either try another source next time or roll the dice and hope that the next supply is a bit stronger.

[Honkey_Kong]

It's noticeable when ejaculating, my balls usually aren't retracting that much upwards. They look tiny when that happens, but other than that you don't really "see" it. They definitely feel kind of mushy or soft, no idea if that is normal when on HCG/AAS? Normally my balls aren't soft like they are now.

Wait, you're keeping tabs on how much your balls retract when you ejaculate? Who the fvck does that?

But anyways, you should probably get it looked at if it's bothering you. But yeah listen to Mickey Knox.

[jasc]

OP, When you're reconstituting your hcg are you doing it very slowly as to not create a lot of bubbles? Hcg is sensitive and can denature very easily if you create a disturbance. It should be mixed very slowly and never shaken, bubbles are not a good sign.

One trick I do now is release the vacuum before I add the bac water. It really helps when trying to add it slowly.

[Drops]

First and foremost, we all metabolize differently.

However, 1000iu/wk of hCG will not desensitize you or any receptors. Having said that, i believe your hCG is not as potent as it could be. I do not atrophy at all when using hCG, and some of my lyophilized supply is almost a year old stored at room temps.

But since you dont appear to be atrophied that much, this indicates your hCG is working - just not up to full power, that's all.

No worries. Finish it up and either try another source next time or roll the dice and hope that the next supply is a bit stronger.

Will do mate. Loving the cycle so far though, strength gains are just coming on by now (bench strength is up by approx. 10% already). I don't "feel like a god" though, as some people say they do, I feel pretty normal psychologically.

[MickeyKnox]

OP, When you're reconstituting your hcg are you doing it very slowly as to not create a lot of bubbles? Hcg is sensitive and can denature very easily if you create a disturbance. It should be mixed very slowly and never shaken, bubbles are not a good sign.

One trick I do now is release the vacuum before I add the bac water. It really helps when trying to add it slowly.

That is a very good point! I forgot to address this. Good job Jasc.

hCG Fragility

HCG Fragility

[Drops]

OP, When you're reconstituting your hcg are you doing it very slowly as to not create a lot of bubbles? Hcg is sensitive and can denature very easily if you create a disturbance. It should be mixed very slowly and never shaken, bubbles are not a good sign.

One trick I do now is release the vacuum before I add the bac water. It really helps when trying to add it slowly.

I know HCG is sensitive, but I thought it was slightly overrated. I don't shake it though and I try to handle it as carefully as possible. I accidentally made some bubbles because of the vacuum, will make sure to handle that better next time