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    I have decided to log my next cycle and future results, so here we go..

    Cycle commences June 12th (approx) depends how the healing of my next 8 hour session tattoo goes on the 6th..

    Before cycle stats:
    178lbs
    5.8"
    10-11%bf
    (Will update with before/after measurments)

    Before and after progress pics will be given.

    Cycle will consist of:
    Week 1-8 Test prop @75mg ed
    Week 1-8 Tren ace @75mg ed

    Adex @.25ed
    Prami @.25-.5ed
    Isotretinoin @5-10mged

    Pct:
    Nolva 40/20/20/20/20/20
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    DAA @5ged

    On cycle supplements:
    Gaspari size on intra workout
    Gaspari superpump max pre workout
    High dose vitamin c (used all year regardless)
    Fish oil (used all year regardless)
    ON opti-men multi
    Hawthorn berry extract

    Training:
    Layne nortons PHAT
    Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training Routine:

    Day 1: Upper Body Power Day

    Pulling Power Movement: Bent over or Pendlay rows
    3 sets of 3-5 reps
    Assistance Pulling movement: Weighted Pull ups
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    Auxiliary Pulling movement: Rack chins
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    Pressing Power Movement: Flat dumbbell presses
    3 sets of 3-5 reps
    Assistance pressing movement: Weighted dips
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    Assistance pressing movement: Seated dumbbell shoulder presses
    3 sets of 6-10 reps
    Auxiliary curling movement: Cambered bar curls
    3 sets of 6-10 reps
    Auxiliary extension movement: Skull crushers
    3 sets of 6-10 reps

    Day 2: Lower Body Power Day

    Pressing Power Movement: Squats
    3 sets of 3-5 reps
    Assistance pressing movement: Hack Squats
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    Assistance extension movement: Leg extensions
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    Assistance pulling movement: Stiff legged deadlifts
    3 sets of 5-8 reps
    Assistance pulling/curling movement: Glute ham raises or lying leg curls
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    Auxiliary calf movement: Standing calf raise
    3 sets of 6-10 reps
    Auxiliary calf movement: Seated calf raise
    2 sets of 6-10 reps

    Day 3: Rest

    Day 4: Back and Shoulders Hypertrophy Day

    Pulling Power Exercise speed work: Bent over or Pendlay rows
    6 sets of 3 reps with 65-70% of normal 3-5 rep max
    Hypertrophy pulling movement: Rack chins
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    Hypertrophy pulling movement: Seated cable row
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    Hypertrophy pulling movement: Dumbbell rows or shrugs bracing upper body against an incline bench
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    Hypertrophy pulling movement: Close grip pulldowns
    2 sets of 15-20 reps
    Hypertrophy shoulder movement: Seated dumbbell presses
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    Hypertrophy shoulder movement: Upright rows
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    Hypertrophy shoulder movement: Side lateral raises with dumbbells or cables
    3 sets of 12-20 reps

    Day 5: Lower Body Hypertrophy Day

    Lower Body Power Exercise speed work: Squats
    6 sets of 3 reps with 65-70% of normal 3-5 rep max
    Hypertrophy pressing movement: Hack squats
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    Hypertrophy pressing movement: Leg presses
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    Hypertrophy extension movement: Leg extensions
    3 sets of 15-20 reps
    Hypertrophy pulling movement: Romanian deadlifts
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    Hypertrophy curling movement: Lying leg curls
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    Hypertrophy curling movement: Seated leg curls
    2 sets of 15-20 reps
    Hypertrophy calf movement: Donkey calf raises
    4 sets of 10-15 reps
    Hypertrophy calf movement: Seated calf raises
    3 sets of 15-20 reps

    Day 6: Chest and Arms Hypertrophy Day

    Pressing Power Exercise speed work: Flat dumbbell presses
    6 sets of 3 reps with 65-70% of normal 3-5 rep max
    Hypertrophy pressing movement: Incline dumbbell presses
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    Hypertrophy pressing movement: Hammer strength chest press
    3 sets of 12-15 reps
    Hypertrophy fly movement: Incline cable flyes
    2 sets of 15-20 reps
    Hypertrophy curling exercise: Cambered bar preacher curls
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    Hypertrophy curling exercise: Dumbbell concentration curls
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    Hypertrophy curling exercise: Spider curls bracing upper body against an incline bench
    2 sets of 15-20 reps
    Hypertrophy extension exercise: Seated tricep extension with cambered bar
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    Hypertrophy extension exercise: Cable pressdowns with rope attachment
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    Hypertrophy extension exercise: Cable kickbacks
    2 sets of 15-20 reps

    Day 7: Rest


    Goals:
    8-10lbs while maintaining bf% of 10-11%
    (Lean bulk)

    Diet: (will update with exact diet soon)

    I will increasing my actual Maintence by 500calories to begin with..(when I say actual Maintence I mean the calories I have discovered to be my Maintence through actual dieting and weight monitoring not just a quick guesstimate using a tdee calculator weeks prior to starting a cycle)..I believe knowing your body/diet needs is essential to seeing desired results rather than playing guessing games. My body requires 22.5cals lb/lbm which is along way off the standard 15xlbm given as a general rule, so I advise everyone to get to know their body before starting a cycle (you should already know this if you are considering using aas IMO)...

    So my Maintence is 3550 I will be starting 4050 and go from there, I will continue my usual macros of Protein BWx1.5, Fat BWx.5, fill the rest of my calories with carbs.
    (Exact diet will be updated closer to cycle)

    I'm about to start priming for this cycle tomorrow, I will be lowering carbs by 200-300 calories each week, with a refeed day every 4 days once I get to 1000cals below Maintence, I have dropped my training back to eod training using push/pull/legs.

    That's about all I can think of to add at this stage,
    Stay tuned!!



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    Previous cycle history and starting stats.

    Started lifting properly at 21-22, had been to the gym back and forth with no results in my late teens,
    At 22-23 I weighed about the same as most females at 140lbs skinny/fat 14%bf..

    After some time in the gym as noob gains slowed down I started using prohormones, recklessly due to my knowledge and experience and diet, but I did follow correct pct and on/off protocols. With the help of a reckless and no knowledge 12 week test e cycle ( with no ai ).. These few ph cycles and test cycle over a couple of years I weighed in at 224lbs, that's right 84lbs over a couple of years, I was carrying lots of water lots of fat, and felt unhealthy...but in my eyes coming from 140lbs that was one very big bulk, I was eating all day every day..

    I then over the next 24 months, started correct dieting and ran another couple of cycles, but this time both cutting cycles. Which leaves me where I am today..

    Approx 38lbs heavier than my old natural frame and approx 4% less bodyfat,
    So as far as natural genetics I was fighting some heavy ecto genes.
    As mentioned earlier I have to consume over 3500cals to maintain this ( I do this clean and find it rather easy tbh) I maintain this weight and bf% naturally.
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    Before: these pics are all within the last month,
    I have been off cycle since the start of the year, and this is my day to day natural weight/look.

    To date I have not ran a cycle with intentions of weight gain since my long first bulk, ( which was a couple of years ago) so will be nice to start building some more muscle again now that I have reached my desired bf%
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    Nice on aus. Will be following and best of luck.

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    good luck

    first time with tren?

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    Good luck buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420
    good luck

    first time with tren?
    Second time, first time was along side test e, however I was cutting from relatively high bf%, plus I was having to use letro from gyno I was having issues with from my previous cycle with no ai...
    Since then I have learnt how to effectively control my estrogen levels

    I've certainly made my mistakes in the past but have learnt from them that's for sure, most of what i know fortunately/unfortunately comes from actual experiences..

    Previous cycles have been:

    Prohormones/test e 12 weeks
    Over 2 years bulked from 140ish pounds to 220 something..if I remember rightly the 12 weeks of test got me from 200lbs to 220, as mentioned no ai and gains were alot of fat/water

    Teste/tren a (yes to early and too hight bf% for tren)
    Trying to cut down from my ridiculous bulk while trying to maintain some hard earned muscle

    Testp/winny
    Very low calorie cutting cycle started at around 14% and got to where I am today..

    Which lands me where I am today at my 4th cycle..and now time to gain some nice quality muscle for a change
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    Good luck on this cycle bro. Wow I thought I had to eat a ton of calories! I don't know how you think it is easy to eat 4,000 cals/daily clean. Whats your secret? haha.

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    In for this. You look great already, this should really put you over the top!

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    Thanks guys.

    I will post my diet in a few weeks, but having fats on the higher side certainly helps, close to a 1000 calories comes from fats, which I mainly use natty pb and mixed nuts, which I love to eat. So that certainly helps.

    I eat 100g oats everyday, I also eat plenty of multigrain and light rye bread (6 pieces), and 250g of brown rice each day. I also drink 500ml low fat milk a day and 2 pieces of fruit

    for protein I eat half a dozen egg whites, a couple of skinless chicken breasts and 250g serving of grilled fish each day.

    I will post my full diet soon
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    2-3 weeks to go till lift off!!

    Everything is ready on hand just waiting for pins that should Arrive soon, I've dropped 500cals from Maintence through carbs over the last couple of weeks, have trimmed a couple lbs bf, looking a bit leaner/vascular...

    I'm actually looking like I am back on allready, looking very good ATM...I can't even imagine how I'm going to be looking on/after this cycle

    To be continued.....

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    I should add that this is day 3 of 5mg ultra low dose isotretinoin purely for preventative measures of acne..I hope I will not need to up this, fingers crossed for a no acne cycle!

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    Looking good already, look forward to your progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown
    Looking good already, look forward to your progress.
    Cheers, will do my best to update regularly

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    thought id post a quick update..
    2 weeks to go until start of cycle, still eating 500 cals below maintence, have dropped a couple of lb's looking nice and lean and feeling pretty good, looking forward to increasing carbs again though..creatine has also been dropped from my diet atm

    the previous few weeks i have been training 1on/off push/pull/legs,
    i have just started for the next 2 weeks full body workouts 1on/2off and not training to failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auswest View Post
    thought id post a quick update..
    2 weeks to go until start of cycle, still eating 500 cals below maintence, have dropped a couple of lb's looking nice and lean and feeling pretty good, looking forward to increasing carbs again though..creatine has also been dropped from my diet atm

    the previous few weeks i have been training 1on/off push/pull/legs,
    i have just started for the next 2 weeks full body workouts 1on/2off and not training to failure.
    Sounds like a good prime.

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    Very comprehensive post bro.

    It's going to take some hard work and dedication.

    I am planning a similar cycle but with the Enanthate esters (to avoid having to pin so much).

    How do you feel about pining so much?

    What made you choose these Esters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by suckerdj
    Very comprehensive post bro.

    It's going to take some hard work and dedication.

    I am planning a similar cycle but with the Enanthate esters (to avoid having to pin so much).

    How do you feel about pining so much?

    What made you choose these Esters?
    Thanks, I'm no stranger to hard work and dedication, I'm committed all year round as it is.

    I've done ed pins before, it gets old, but it's what you gotta do so doesn't bother me that much.

    I chose prop/ace for a couple of reasons.
    I enjoy the fast kick in time
    I enjoy getting off and straight into pct.
    I like the fact I'm shut down for a shorter period of time.
    I also have alot less issues with estrogen when running prop over test e.

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    Quick update

    Day 3

    75mg prop/tren each glute day 1/2
    .25 adex ed
    5mg accutane
    .125 prami

    Extreme pip almost instantly after injection, today is in fact day 3 from first shot and right glute still very sore, going to be a long 8 weeks if this keeps up, left delt tonight.

    Feeling very lethargic ATM and appetite is being effected. I am putting this down to prami, the first day I took .25mg and it hit me for six, had to take the next day off work, so have decided to build upto .5ed a lot slower.

    A lot of people mention prami helps with sleeping, I have been dosing everything before bed and my sleep has been awful, it has been a rough few days ill see how I go over the next week, and may have to change to AM dosing.

    First day of my new routine today (hyper back/shoulders) felt great, enjoying the volume.
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    3rd pin left delt.

    About half way through felt that familiar tightening of chest, and that desire to cough my guts up, having been in this situation a few times, I paused injecting and took slow shallow breaths and continued to inject very slowly.. Managed to control it this time around thank god!!

    I did aspirated as I always do, blood did come out of injection site on removal. Passed through something obviously and a minimal amount of gear made its way into the blood stream..:/ people refer to it as tren cough but I have also experienced it with prop/winny.. It sucks and now has reminded me of it....already regretting the decision to pin ed!!! Haha oh well only 57 pins to go :/!!!

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    4th pin

    Right delt

    Pip in glutes still lingering but not too bad, left delt from yesterday is pretty good, no real issue there.

    Upping prami dose tonight to .2mg

    Felt great today not lethargic at all from memory, mood has lifted and seem a lot more talkative which isn't like me usually, feeling slightly euphoric through out the day, so definite mood enhancement.

    My sleep last night was much better than the last couple of days, don't recall waking up often, mind and body felt a lot more rested.

    Only downside is moving around like a bit of an old man due to glute pip,
    Which will be made worse tomorrow as today was leg day (hyper trophy day). Workout went well, no increase in strength this early on.

    Muscles looking very full due to the increase in carbs/calories. And I feel as though my appetite has somewhat returned, to early to say, I'll see how tomorrow goes

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    Starting pics have been removed for personal reasons as I didn't want them sitting here to long, 1 of them was my Facebook profile.

    Once cycle is complete I will repost along with post cycle pics, and will eventually remove again as I don't want to leave them lingering around next to a detailed account of my cycle history.

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    Your new before pic is much better

    Tempted to switch to EOD injection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black
    Your new before pic is much better

    Tempted to switch to EOD injection?
    Hahaha I've got to agree with you

    Tempted yea..will I... No.
    My last ed pinning cycle went so smooth for me I don't want to risk copping some of the sides I'm prone to, mainly acne and gyno, short esters and ed pinning seems to take good care of that, trying to keep things as stable as possible.
    But it's a pain in the arse..literally!!

    Tomorrow I'm going to have to hit quads, I hate quads! Delts/glutes/quads are the only locations I've been game to use, if my glute has recovered tomorrow it's going back in there, I hate quads that much, triceps are starting to tempt me though..
    Ed pinning certainly makes for a long cycle though, there is no denying that.

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    I hate quads too. In fact, never again.

    Are you using a differ brand of gear to last time for it to cause so much PIP? It's all worth it though bud, but you know that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black
    I hate quads too. In fact, never again.

    Are you using a differ brand of gear to last time for it to cause so much PIP? It's all worth it though bud, but you know that
    Yup different brand,
    I've used their test e before though.
    I'm forever hitting nerves in my quads
    but yeah it's all worth it

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    Decided to make my log just that bit more enjoyable, im going to be posting my chosen sexy pic of the day, half naked women of course...not from my collection of selfies I take!

    Will do my best to update this log daily, easier said than done but ill see how I go, somedays may be rather short however..



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    5th pin

    There is one thing I hate more than quad injections..... And that's 2 quad injections!

    Right quad, 1st pin in and sitting in a nerve, removed pin, swapped pin and repinned, this time all good, it was actually quite a pleasant Injection.

    Mood still good, not feeling fatigued. Nothing else worth reporting there.

    Pip and glutes now all but gone, and next to nothing in delts.

    Hypertrophy chest/arms today..
    No strength gains yet but holy hell skin tearing arm pumps, never had pumps like this almost to the point where enough was enough..
    Sweating has picked up in the gym

    Bumping up prami to .25 tonight which is .05 up from yesturday.

    Only annoying thing I have noticed is waking up a few times a night to urinate..?? May be to do with at the moment I am on training so I'm spending all day in the class room but still drinking the same large amounts of water and not sweating it out of me as I usually would.

    That's about it!



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    All good news sofar?

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    Things are going really well, slacked off as far as updating this the last few days, will have a detailed post tonight after work of how my first week has gone.
    Cheers for checking in

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    Quote Originally Posted by auswest View Post
    Things are going really well, slacked off as far as updating this the last few days, will have a detailed post tonight after work of how my first week has gone.
    Cheers for checking in
    Waiting Patiently

    Just trying to keep you accountable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wh1spa

    Waiting Patiently

    Just trying to keep you accountable.

    Well here it is
    Pin 8 today 7th day

    Upto .3prami daily

    I have a great sense of well being now, very happy, talkative ect, very pleased in this area, feeling slightly hyperactive at times. Waking up hard as a rock which is good

    1 week down and weight increased by exactly 5lbs, looking very full, the 900 calorie jump from a 500 calorie deficit to around 400 surplus is going well, carrying a little more water than I would like but I kind of expected this quick weight gain coming from 6 week @500 below maintenance , interested to see how my weight stabilises this week, I may have to cut back on the calories.

    No real sides to speak of other than occasional hot flushes, increased sweating in the gym, my 5mg accutane dosing is keeping all acne away so far, so fingers crossed, lips slightly dry though have developed an annoying small crack in the corner of my lips. Facial/body hair appears to be growing a lot faster, I always notice this while on.


    Getting back into the swing of pinning daily and pip is reducing.

    Power lower body today, small increase in strength in some lifts.

    Im hoping for a strong recovery from this cycle, prior to getting back on, my body felt like it was in a good place so really hoping to bounce back to where I was, my first/last tren attempt recovery was awful, but I was battling gyno with a heavy letro protocol, so I believe that was largely to blame.

    Very excited to see how week 2 plays out bring on the gains!



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    Pin 9 today

    Am now on night shift for a week, so this will be interesting to see how my sleep goes.

    Today was an off day today very keen for tomorrow in the gym,

    Nothing else to report feeling good and happy, didn't look like I was holding much water at all today just as defined as the day I started so all good there very happy with the way things are going.



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    I'm mostly gonna skim read and spend the time saved looking at your pics

    Good news the PIP is subsiding
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    Pin 10

    Have really noticed over the last 3-4 days my cardio has been getting worse and worse.

    Strength is starting to increase from last weeks lifts.

    Sitting @ .335mg prami ATM

    Going to be hard to judge how my sleep is being effected this week as I am on night shift so my sleeping will be hit and miss regardless.

    Weighed myself again today, usually weigh weekly but was curious due to the unwanted excessive weight gain during the first week happy to say it has dropped 2lbs but is still up 2.5lbs from the start so I'm happy with that.

    Appetite is good mood is good.
    Not much else to report. Looking forward to the weeks ahead.



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    Pin 11

    Enjoying quad shots now have found a much better location 3 out of 3 so far so happy with that, no more hitting nerves..delts pains still stick around for a while they seem to be causing rather sore hard lumps this time down close to where my bicep is.

    Really keen on trying triceps soon going to order some 5/8 pins

    Appetite has picked up heaps I feel like I can eat and eat at the moment, which is really good because night shift I usually lose my appetite and force feed.

    Trained legs today, (hyper trophy)
    Chest and arms tomorrow so that will be a good test to see where my strength is at, looking forward to the pumps.

    On .35prami now will increase to .4 before bed today.

    Everything else is all good. Nothing noticeably different to report.



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    I can't focus or read your posts due to all the hot women. Not complaining at all. Just saying....

    The one in post 34 is un-f'n-unbelievable.

    Whatever you're doing. Keep up the good work. If, in fact, it's good work your doing here.
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    Haha nice way to get lots of traffic in your thread.

    Have you tried pinning pecs yet? Super easy and one of my favorite spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    I can't focus or read your posts due to all the hot women. Not complaining at all. Just saying....

    The one in post 34 is un-f'n-unbelievable.

    Whatever you're doing. Keep up the good work. If, in fact, it's good work your doing here.
    Haha thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman
    Haha nice way to get lots of traffic in your thread.

    Have you tried pinning pecs yet? Super easy and one of my favorite spots.
    Have not tried pecs yet, I'll be ordering 5/8 pins in the next couple of days so I might do some experimenting.

    Pin 12 today, left quad another nice quad pin, it is now a favourable site for me.
    .4mg prami today and feeling fine.

    A couple more days to weigh in so interested to see what week 2 resulted in, arm size up by 1cm.

    Chest and arms hyper trophy today seeing increased strength but nothing crazy tbh, my lifting is very focused on muscle connection and t.u.t, I'm sure I could throw a lot more weight around if I wanted to but it's not how I train.

    My left delt pip ruined my bicep workout today, I think I may have mentioned this in a earlier post a day or 2 ago, a sore lump under my delt right next to my bicep has formed sore and red, when injecting I thought I pinned straight in but after injecting I let go of the pin and it shifted about 20 degrees so yeah kinda fkd that up, have started using anti inflammatorys and deep heat cream on the area, hopefully it will subside in the next 48 hours, it's in a terrible location near my bicep quite painful.



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