Crazy Mike's come back Log and Cycle May 2013

[crazy mike]

Mike's come back Log and Cycle May 2013
I decided to start a log for my come back cycle post umbilical hernia surgery. I took these and posted then. And my surgery was 3-11-13
Pre hernia operation pictures on 3-05-13
Well I got the nerve to take a few pictures before I have to take off a full four weeks after my umbilical hernia operation on Monday 3-11-13
So I will see what I look like after I recover which will actually be in five weeks from today, or at least when I can pick it back up again.

The surgery went well but I couldn’t get back to training hard until May the 6 th. That was 9 week off hard training. I went from 188-190 lbs to 183lbs during the time off. I quickly gained back to 185 – 188lbs. Put back on the water.
My cycle started with Test E, Deca and Dbol on the 1st of May. Due to Gyno I had to stop the Deca and the Dbol, suddenly.

My new cycle started on May 15th Wednesday.
Test E 500mg wk
Test P 200mg EOD
Masteron P 200mg EOD
Tbol 80 mg ED
Liquidex 0.5 ED
Nolva (Tomox) 20 mg ED
(I’ve been on that for a month now for my Gyno problem)
PCT is always Test E only for me.

[crazy mike]

Week 1 : Wednesday May 22

One week of training hard. My strength is coming back and is about 65%. A long way to go.
My appetite is beginning to come back and I’m beginning to eat more. I do not have a clean diet and never have. I am trying to change that but it will be slow. It’s tough to change after so many years of eating junk.
I am getting more consistent at eating every couple of hours. I know where I need to be. Slow coming, but it is progressing.
My protein intake is about 160 grams a day, between the protein shakes and my food (chicken, turkey and tuna) intake.
My weight is now 193 lbs. I have gained some water weight but it is not showing yet.
My come back is on schedule for me.

[Java Man]

GL cm.

[cj111]

1.2 grams of test a week? Isnt that a lot ? Or did I misread something

[crazy mike]

1.2 grams of test a week? Isnt that a lot ? Or did I misread something

You read correctly and yes that is a lot. The Test P @ 200mg will be adjusted as per my body results and monitoring. To save face here with the high dosage I will tell you that aas is not having near the effect to a 61 yr. old man as does a young man. I can say that because of my vast experience when I was younger. I see what happens to the young bucks at a fraction of the dose. The sides are the same. The danger is more, but the facts are to get the results I want or am striving for was why the decision. Masteron because of Gyno and just what is. Tbol for the bulking ability without the Estrogen effects so dramatic as Dbol. Test for Test results. I welcome criticism or advice as long as it is -constructive. ...crazy mike

PS: I just got blood work and I am staying on frequent BW levels

[cj111]

No I was just curious. Best of luck with the cycle. I am going to be running some masteron in the future as well, looking forward to it.

[Lunk1]

Good luck ya crazy bastard (meant with love).

[RipOwens]

Good luck mike, go get it...

[BluPhin]

Crazy man, looking good bro! Were you using an A.I and/or HCG during your initial cycle (test e, deca and dbol)?

[thehor]

Looking good crazy mike, good to hear you recovered.

[crazy mike]

Crazy man, looking good bro! Were you using an A.I and/or HCG during your initial cycle (test e, deca and dbol)?

Yes been on Liquidex for quite a few months. ...crazy mike

[BluPhin]

Yes been on Liquidex for quite a few months. ...crazy mike

Do you usually have a problem with gyno? just curious because I was considering dbol for my next cycle but would prefer to avoid gyno if its problematic with dbol.

[3day]

Good luck CM. I will be following.

[crazy mike]

Do you usually have a problem with gyno? just curious because I was considering dbol for my next cycle but would prefer to avoid gyno if its problematic with dbol.

BluPhin I have been susceptible to it from years ago. My body as I was ageing started to change a bit for the worse with Gyno. I came back into aas not knowing and it got started. I controlled it and my E2 , but late into the game. (ha, no game). So it was ok but when I got into Deca and the added the Dbol it took off out of control fast. AS soon as I put together what was the max instigator was I stopped the Dbol. I would suggest tbol. I just started that so I'll let you know ...cm

[havanakid]

Good luck with your cycle CM. Keep us updated as far as bloodwork as well.

[< <Samson> >]

Still, @ 60+ you give the rest hope. You look damn solid!

Good look on the cycle, pretty sure you'll do good.

[Back In Black]

Mike you are a little young to be cycling. Maybe wait a couple of years and spend as much time as you can on these forums learning as much as you can until you gain another 60lbs.



Good luck buddy

[crazy mike]

Mike you are a little young to be cycling. Maybe wait a couple of years and spend as much time as you can on these forums learning as much as you can until you gain another 60lbs.



Good luck buddy

Good morning guys. Cool beans, thanks for the kind words. And I appreciate you...Back In Black, ha, ha, haaaa !!! . ....crazy mike

[DanC11B]

I'm excited to see what a 61 y/o looks like after a cycle like this!

[crazy mike]

Week 2: Wednesday May 29th Day 14 of the cycle

This is after the second week of hard training.
My body weight has moved up and I weigh 196 lbs. and holding the last 3-1/2 days. Of course I’ll be real and water is coming on.
My strength is beginning to change and I fell much stronger. The reality of feeling stronger as I pick up weights like dumbbells doesn’t compute as my max lifts. However I'm real happy my incline bench as well as my front shoulder press both went up by 20lbs max
I feel my natural strength to be coming back as a fast rate and the aas are now beginning to give me a real good edge. I’ll just note I can feel that anabolic boost.
This picture is from today and it was taken as close to being the same as the one on 3-5-13 before surgery.
I’m not showing much growth but it’s only been two weeks.

[BluPhin]

^ you gotta love the feel of that anabolic BOOST. For me, size begins accumulating after noticeable strength gains are made. That means you are right on track bro! Get ready to stretch your sleeves out.

[kelkel]

Mike do you feel recovered from surgery?

[crazy mike]

Cool man, haha ! I like what your wrote, you know what I mean BluPhin !!! ...crazzzzzy mike

[crazy mike]

Yes Kel. I knew you might be concerned and I appreciate that. The hernia area feels tight and strong. The only touch of discomfort is I can feel some little edges of what might be some scaring tissue at the mesh outer areas. Nothing that I feel is going to have a problem. My initial hernia back in 80' left me with this strange poking like the edges of the mesh. It is not the point of the hernia. I'm good Kel, and not bullshit "macho man" good. Just good to go. thanks, ...crazy mike

[crazy mike]

Week 4: Wednesday June 12th Day 22 of this cycle

Not much happening or what I thought might be going on. My appetite is npot very good, which puzzles me due to the high dosage of Testosterone being E and Prop. My weight is holding at 195-197 lbs. Can’t get it up anymore.

I realize it’s mostly diet but that is a real stickler. I’m not a nutritionists but I know mostly what I need to eat. My sweet tooth get on the way. However the problem lies in no appetite. Force feeding is not going good. I can only force so much.

Now I get into the strength side and I find no real change. On a good day I get that anabolic feeling that I know. I’m strong and smooth and my lighter sets feel real strong but the max is not going anywhere respectively for my dosage.

I need a better partner. I need a trainer/partner to push past he failure point. BUT I now have to be careful of injuries. Tendonitis is plaguing me, so I slowed down arms, mostly Biceps.
I am getting depressed and no one can do anything about this, and this is my age. I’ll be Fvcking 62 yrs. Old in July 18th. I am beginning to think age is a bigger factor then I want to admit and or give into. I Fvcked up all those years.

So let the spilt milk be, but what to do. I’m tired all the time from work outs, I’m in constant pain, my wife thinks I’m going to kill myself. Well I’d rather die in the gym then a fvcking sanitarium or rehab.
Enough of that, Update is I’m hanging in there, I’ll try to nap more and eat more. I don’t know if I can or should work out any harder. Only 4th week maybe, something will click. I jst will not except the age thing BUT, WTF.

Goal long term, longer term 225 lbs. at 12% BF only thirty pounds ya know. …crazy mike
“Oldest Juicer on the Forum”

[crazy mike]

I found more of my old pictures and loaded them. These also from the same time in 1986.



I think you have to open them to see them. The pics are from very small old negatives. ...crazy mike

[crazy mike]

I got up the nerve to take a picture today for a comparison. Don't see much yet.

Here is the picture from 5-29-13 , day 14


Here is a picture today. 6- 14-13 day 30


Those are the pictures of what ever progress I've made in my body.

The last two days I've noticed an increase in strength in my arm strength by an amazing %.
I can't tell the true %age because I am also coming back from the hernia operation.
The main thing is I am seeing gains in strength in all my body parts. I have to admit that my diet is not on the mark. I am working on that.

That's all that I/we can see so far. Not much yet. ...crazy mike

[BluPhin]

Mike, you know nutrition comes before gear or even training. Keep your chin up and work on your macros. You will get there man!
Strength increase always precedes size increase for me. You are on the right track, be patient.

[bdos]

Good luck crazy mike!

[clarky.]

I got up the nerve to take a picture today for a comparison. Don't see much yet.

Here is the picture from 5-29-13 , day 14


lHere is a picture today. 6- 14-13 day 30


Those are the pictures of what ever progress I've made in my body.

The last two days I've noticed an increase in strength in my arm strength by an amazing %.
I can't tell the true %age because I am also coming back from the hernia operation.
The main thing is I am seeing gains in strength in all my body parts. I have to admit that my diet is not on the mark. I am working on that.

That's all that I/we can see so far. Not much yet. ...crazy mike

THERE IS A DIFERNCE IN THE PICS MIKE YOUR BACK LOOKS GOOD NICE LATS AND YOU SHOULDERS ARE LOOKING GOOD ASWELL AND THEY OLD PICS ARE CRACKING MATE ITS A GOOD IDEA TO DO A LOG IT LETS PEOPLE COMENT IT WILL GIVE YOU INCENTIVE TO WORK HARDER AND YOU WILL SEE THE DIFERENCE YOUR SELF BY LOOKING AT IT THIS WAY I MIGHT DO THIS MYSELF NEXT TIME GOOD LICK MIKE sorry about the caps a left the fu*cking thing on lol

[OnTheSauce]

Looking gold! You've been at this a long time

[itsjayman02]

Watching with interest young man !!

[chi]

keep it up CM don't get discouraged and those pictures from you back in the day are AWESOME!!!!

[ppwc1985]

Cm not to get off track, how did you know you had an umbilical hernia. Reason I ask cause I have a little lump near my belly button more I side my skin nothing sticking out. No pain, I'm waiting on my dr appointment but been researching what it could be.

[crazy mike]

Cm not to get off track, how did you know you had an umbilical hernia. Reason I ask cause I have a little lump near my belly button more I side my skin nothing sticking out. No pain, I'm waiting on my dr appointment but been researching what it could be.

Hey, sorry for the delay on getting back to you. I have had one before at the same location and I am very well acquainted with all the symptoms.My dad was a doc and I originally was born with it. I know the dynamics.
I was working abs very hard and that afternoon shortly after I was sore at the bellybutton and mine is an umbilical hernia. So when I touched it, it was protruding a little. When I pushed in it went back in. It was a hole through my stomach wall. Very distinct, the intestinal tissue was coming out and I could push it back in. If I was to push it would pop back out. No mistake. If you have blown one, you can tell by pushing and keeping your finger on it and it will protrude. ...crazy mike

[ppwc1985]

Ok thanks cm, ill try that. What causes this to happen?

[crazy mike]

Ok thanks cm, ill try that. What causes this to happen?

You stomach wall gets weak spots after the pushing and over pushing of our insides under stress. When it gets a weak spot , much like an inner tube it then bulges. Our intestines like the air in the tube push on the weak spot on out it comes. Our intestines' push and break a hole in out wall and protrude through. It can get larger and larger. When our intestines come out and stay out, when we don't get to push it back in, stays out too long, it gets strangulated and dies, gets infected and then gang-green. Now at that point you are seriously FvCKED UP ! Ya think.

Get it looked at and if it comes out do not be afraid to push it back in. You have to push it back in or ....yep ! Fvcked up you are !, so get it looked at NOW ! , Clear on that....crazy mike

[ppwc1985]

Yes I'm clear, lol making appointment to day. If surgery, how long did it take you to recuperate? Thanks mike for the info, I have researched it but having first hand knowledge is so much better.

[crazy mike]

Yes I'm clear, lol making appointment to day. If surgery, how long did it take you to recuperate? Thanks mike for the info, I have researched it but having first hand knowledge is so much better.

Had the surgery and was out 4 weeks then light, light not more the 5-15 lbs for another 4 weeks. Then 4 more weeks 25-35 lbs. easy, very easy then 10-12 week out go for it as best as possible. come back is slower then you'll want, but it is what it is. No getting around it. Keep me posted on this thread if you want. Have you signed in, on my scrapbook ? G, luck. ...crazy mike

[ppwc1985]

Not yet, been meaning too?