Bass's Latest BW

[bass]

Hi Guys, did a complete male hormone panel and just wanted to share with you my latest BW, only posting the important ones.

Protocol,
60mgs Test SQ twice a week
hCG, 500iu twice a week one day prior to test injection
AI, 0.25 mg twice a week one day after each test injection

Supplements,
Fish oil
Vit. D3

Total Test, (944) 348-1197
Free T, (33.4) 7.2-24
PSA, (0.8) 0.00-4.0 (this one keeps going down and no abstaining)
IGF-1, (197) 56-201 (this one went down from when I was on a lower dose)
E2 Sensitive, (13) 3-70 (I will stop AI until my next BW)

RBC, Hemoglobin, Hematocrit, are all in excellent ranges, I do donate every two months.

[BallSak]

That looks really good. I'm jealous. 150mg of T cyp only gets my free T to midrange.

[jimmyinkedup]

Looking good bass! Thanks for sharing the blood work.

[austinite]

Thank you, bass. Looks like you've got plenty of room to let the AI go for a while, good call.

[bass]

That looks really good. I'm jealous. 150mg of T cyp only gets my free T to midrange.

have you checked your SHBG lately?

Looking good bass! Thanks for sharing the blood work.

Thanks Jimmy! I am officially dialed in.

[bass]

Thank you, bass. Looks like you've got plenty of room to let the AI go for a while, good call.

you are correct Austinite, this one I go on and off between BW's.

[TraceMYD]

Hey bass, thanks for sharing.

Regarding your E2, would you say 13 is too low?
If so, What's considered a good number or to be at for your E2?
Somewhere in the 30 range?

[xcraider37]

you are correct Austinite, this one I go on and off between BW's.

Is stopping the AI the best course of action, asumming you are using adex, would stopping be setting yourself up for the rebound effect, since as I understand it adex blocks the E2 at the receptors you may find yourself high within a week or so with a flood of e2 entering your blood stream. Now if your using aromasin different story.

[BallSak]

have you checked your SHBG lately?

It was 27 in Dec before I started testosterone administration. I would think it would be pushed down lower after 5 months of test.

Good for you on getting dialed in!

[bass]

Hey bass, thanks for sharing.

Regarding your E2, would you say 13 is too low?
If so, What's considered a good number or to be at for your E2?
Somewhere in the 30 range?

everyone is different, but 25-35 works great for me.

Is stopping the AI the best course of action, asumming you are using adex, would stopping be setting yourself up for the rebound effect, since as I understand it adex blocks the E2 at the receptors you may find yourself high within a week or so with a flood of e2 entering your blood stream. Now if your using aromasin different story.

no, adex works differently, you can easily crash E2 within one week, but it takes 4-6 times longer to get E2 levels back in range. this is the general understanding here, also my experience and few others.

It was 27 in Dec before I started testosterone administration. I would think it would be pushed down lower after 5 months of test.

Good for you on getting dialed in!

if it was pushed lowers then your test levels would have been higher, but i am willing to bet your SHBG has gone up, and maybe your E2 as well.

[xcraider37]

no, adex works differently, you can easily crash E2 within one week, but it takes 4-6 times longer to get E2 levels back in range. this is the general understanding here, also my experience and few others.

Ok good to know mine was 16 on my last sensitive from labcorp think I will slowdown also.

[kelkel]

Bass it looks great! Let us know exactly what course you choose with your AI so others in the same boat can follow along. Maybe .125mg instead of .25 if you can cut them little buggers? Remember DHEA Micro can elevate your E a little (did for me and I needed it) and help lipids so if not supplementing already consider it?

Outstanding buddy!

[bass]

Ok good to know mine was 16 on my last sensitive from labcorp think I will slowdown also.

yes, I learned how to read the symptoms of low E2,

1. wrinkley skin
2. low libido
3. joint pain and back muscle pain
3. tired

high E2 symptoms,
1. bloated feeling, smooth skin.
2. PVC act up, (skipping heart beats) this only if you have PVC's to begin with.
3. disoriented

[bass]

Bass it looks great! Let us know exactly what course you choose with your AI so others in the same boat can follow along. Maybe 12.5mg instead of .25 if you can cut them little buggers? Remember DHEA Micro can elevate your E a little (did for me and I needed it) and help lipids so if not supplementing already consider it?

Outstanding buddy!

thank you Kel! for now i am simply stopping the AI until my next BW which is in two months. yes I still have DHEA but haven't taking it for a while, and thanks for noting the lipid panel changes, that explains why my lipid panel was good while i was on it, maybe! 12.5 mgs!!! haha, i know you meant 0.125 mgs, and i don't think so buddy, I have a hard time splitting the little suckers in half!

[ZenFitness]

I was back and forth on dropping the adex and instead switched from 0.5mg/wk to 0.25mg/wk. I just take 1/4 tablet once a week as I started hCG and expect my E2 to come up a bit. Trying to be patient and change as few things at a time as possible.

It looks like you and I may be in the same boat (roughly) except you are about 6 - 8 months ahead of me... still trying to get dialed in here

[bass]

I was back and forth on dropping the adex and instead switched from 0.5mg/wk to 0.25mg/wk. I just take 1/4 tablet once a week as I started hCG and expect my E2 to come up a bit. Trying to be patient and change as few things at a time as possible.

It looks like you and I may be in the same boat (roughly) except you are about 6 - 8 months ahead of me... still trying to get dialed in here

you'll get there yea i'll wait and see where my e2 is at in two months then if needed i'll do 1/4 once a week as you've suggested.

[38onTRT]

Bass,

Where are you injecting SQ? VERY nice numbers injecting ONLY 120mg EW SQ! I am a bit jealous... Very cool bro! You would hope that an AI would not be needed if going SQ.. Hoping your next BW works out that way.. You may even be a bit lower than 30..

Protocol,
60mgs Test SQ twice a week

Total Test, (944) 348-1197
Free T, (33.4) 7.2-24

RBC, Hemoglobin, Hematocrit, are all in excellent ranges, I do donate every two months.

[bass]

I inject 30mgs on thigh and 30mg around the belly button. I split my shot to avoid lumps, but it seems injecting multiple sites has an advantage! basically you have two areas releasing the same amount at the same time! just a theory.

[GeriatricOne]

Bass, how long have you been 100% subQ, and what is your BF%?

[zaggahamma]

wow sweet numbers hope all else is well

[Vettester]

Good numbers!! Definitely some low SHBG with that free test % you have.

Did you by chance get any thyroid panels?

[bass]

Bass, how long have you been 100% subQ, and what is your BF%?

About a year or so, bf is about 20%

[bass]

Good numbers!! Definitely some low SHBG with that free test % you have.

Did you by chance get any thyroid panels?

Yes I did, the been the same for over a year, but will post them if you like.

[kelkel]

Thanks for catching the typo Bass!

[HRTstudent]

How long have you been on this current protocol?

Any reason you suspect your E2 is too low? (Were you tinkering with dose etc)

[bass]

How long have you been on this current protocol?

Any reason you suspect your E2 is too low? (Were you tinkering with dose etc)

6 months, before that I was doing 50 mgs twice a week. for me achy joints and back muscle spasm/pain is an indication for low e2.

[APIs]

I inject 30mgs on thigh and 30mg around the belly button. I split my shot to avoid lumps, but it seems injecting multiple sites has an advantage! basically you have two areas releasing the same amount at the same time! just a theory.

Congrats Bass! Interesting theory, I'd bet it's a viable one in some manner. Would be an interesting study for sure...

[bass]

Congrats Bass! Interesting theory, I'd bet it's a viable one in some manner. Would be an interesting study for sure...

Thanks API!