Tren A + Test Prop cycle - ADVICE!!

[omz2199]

Hi just getting my cutting cycle ready need some advice if i need to change anything...i have made up my mind to hit tren a


Age: 23
Previous cycles : 2
1 - Test e (500mg week), - 10 weeks
2- ( sus250) (750mg a week) - 10 weeks.

Current bf: approx 13%
height: 176cm
Weight : 88kg


I have been training since i was 16 so i have alot of experience and am ready to hit it to the next level.

Wanting to drop atleast to 10% by summer

This cycle :
10 weeks :

Test p - 75mg - EOD
Tren A - 100mg - EOD

PCT : CLOMID & NOLVA. - Nolva - 20/20/20/20 Clomid : 300mg first day - 100mg thereafter

[Infidel101]

No mention of AI or Caber/Prami...

[testluva]

Hi just getting my cutting cycle ready need some advice if i need to change anything...i have made up my mind to hit tren a

Age: 23
Previous cycles : 2
1 - Test e (500mg week), - 10 weeks
2- ( sus250) (750mg a week) - 10 weeks.

Current bf: approx 13%
height: 176cm
Weight : 88kg

I have been training since i was 16 so i have alot of experience and am ready to hit it to the next level.

Wanting to drop atleast to 10% by summer

This cycle :
10 weeks :

Test p - 75mg - EOD
Tren A - 100mg - EOD
<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=141262"/>
PCT : CLOMID & NOLVA. - GOT IT ALL SORTED.

Love that dosage. Yes add your caber for your prolactin and AI. I would pin the test in your quad and Tren in the glutes. Less chance of hitting a vein on the Tren. The dreaded Tren rush sucks.

[omz2199]

Love that dosage. Yes add your caber for your prolactin and AI. I would pin the test in your quad and Tren in the glutes. Less chance of hitting a vein on the Tren. The dreaded Tren rush sucks.

Thanks... Never really understood caber /prolactin... can anyone explain?

[itsjayman02]

Won't give advice on pct which is wrong the main concern is your 23 with 2 cycles and looking to use tren which 500% stronger than test.......read the sticky on the young and steroids
You really don't need to be doing this harm to yourself buddy!!

[itsjayman02]

Nice base but you really should read the sticky on the young and steroids!!

23 yrs old and already 2 cycles and your moving onto tren which is about 500% stronger than test

WOW!!

Your PCT is wrong

I don't want to encourage you to run this cycle and tren should be dropped to 8 weeks ( but if you want the truth altogether ) IMO

[omz2199]

I understand that.. but i have made my decision to continue with this cycle...

Any reasons for people saying 8 weeks instead of 10...whats the reasons for this?

And as for PCT - this is how ive ran pct in the past however i would do nolva at 40/40/20/20

[itsjayman02]

Lets hope you get to my age with HEALTH and KIDS young man.........good things come to those who wait

Good luck though !!

[itsjayman02]

I can see you made up your mind

The sides off tren can be extreme and 8 weeks is sufficient to come off and running test longer helps get levels back to normal then pct starts 3 days after last pin

Why clomid so high and are you running hcg?

Tren really should be run after 5or6 cycles and in about 4 years for you mate but like you said it's your body!!

Don't like to advise when too young but also don't want you to harm yourself ( it may be too late ) !!

[stirated]

I would run HCG through out this cycle as tren will shut you down hard nolva and clomid may not be sufficient for PCT.

[omz2199]

I can see you made up your mind

The sides off tren can be extreme and 8 weeks is sufficient to come off and running test longer helps get levels back to normal then pct starts 3 days after last pin

Why clomid so high and are you running hcg?

Tren really should be run after 5or6 cycles and in about 4 years for you mate but like you said it's your body!!

Don't like to advise when too young but also don't want you to harm yourself ( it may be too late ) !!

Thought to kickstart pct - 300mg first day would be fine...

Yes im considering hcg what would be the best way to run it during the cycle

[omz2199]

Any advice on the best way to run hcg thorugh the cycle... what else would you recommend for pct

[crazy mike]

Any advice on the best way to run hcg thorugh the cycle... what else would you recommend for pct

All other advice on age, G2G I agree. Now mind's made up, too long fro Tren, no need and I think at your level you will be think about stopping Tren at 8 week when you are there. Personally Just for me I think a more consistent cycle is Test E @ 300 mg wk and the Tren as you feel and can do. That's just speaking to the steroids. Your body will stay more stable . ...crazy mike

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[JohnnnyBlazzze]

Clomid at 300mg for the first day is way overboard. I'm not a big fan of what Clomid does to me, I don't even run it at 100mg when I do use it.

Not sure if it was mentioned above but get some HCG.

[Lunk1]

There is more crap in this thread than a truck stop restroom!

[kelkel]

Op, be patient. Spend more time reading and learning here. Use the search function. So many threads on these topics and good ones at that. You have a good build, take your time and be safe.

[Lunk1]

OK..here we go! OP good base to start. You really should wait/have waited a cpl years to start using steroids but it seems as if that subject is beating a dead horse. If you are so determined to ignore the risks associated with under age steroid use then I would highly suggest at least slowing your roll a bit. If you are dead set using a 19nor then I would highly suggest using NPP or Deca to see if you are sensitive to associated sides of 19nor compounds.

IF that reasoning doesn't sink in THEN I will say this. USE an AI on cycle, USE HCG through the cycle, keep Prami or Caber on hand, doses look good, drop your clomid down to 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/40/40.

A cpl things that need corrected!
.Any compound can cause (tren cough) so separating injections will not help, good technique will!
.Shut down is shutdown so your PCT effectiveness wont be determined by the compound you ran but more your individual response to the compounds and the PCT drugs
8 weeks is plenty long on a short ester cycle. The reality is the longer you are on the more difficult your recovery can be and its not worth it since gains typically start to diminish around 6 weeks for most.

[Chx beach 79]

There is more crap in this thread than a truck stop restroom!

Classic! LMAO...

[songdog]

You look good bro but you don't need to run such high doses.You should still be running test@ 500mg.You are getting ahead of yourself.Grow into your dose.

[OnTheSauce]

Mirin chest

[omz2199]

OK so most people are saying to run HCG with the cycle...

whats the most effective way it can be used , previously in my cycles i have never had to use it.

[omz2199]

Mirin chest

Thanks mate

[omz2199]

OK..here we go! OP good base to start. You really should wait/have waited a cpl years to start using steroids but it seems as if that subject is beating a dead horse. If you are so determined to ignore the risks associated with under age steroid use then I would highly suggest at least slowing your roll a bit. If you are dead set using a 19nor then I would highly suggest using NPP or Deca to see if you are sensitive to associated sides of 19nor compounds.

IF that reasoning doesn't sink in THEN I will say this. USE an AI on cycle, USE HCG through the cycle, keep Prami or Caber on hand, doses look good, drop your clomid down to 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/40/40.

A cpl things that need corrected!
.Any compound can cause (tren cough) so separating injections will not help, good technique will!
.

Thanks for your reply,
Definetly taking your PCT into account... sounds really good...

However for HCG if someone can explan the diffrence in between the use of it during the cycle compared to not using it... benefits... etc.

Thanks

[dirtyman]

Hcg, run it throughout cycle and stop before Pct.


500mg of hcg a week split into 2 x250mg shots (mon and thurs). Should work nicely

[dirtyman]

There's lots of conflicting advice on how to run HCG. But this seems the most sensible method. Research on here the benefits, there many posts on hcg.