My friend recommended me a cycle!

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

History: I have done 1 cycle of test-e at 1g per week for 15 weeks.
Stats: five eleven 242 pounds. 385x4 bench (before a recent pec tear). 655 deadlift
Goals for this cycle: mostly mass

This is what my friend gave me: He says always use a base of 1g test. He said to add 1g deca for mass and another 1g of tren-e for mass + strength. Orals will be run 4 weeks on 2 off (unless I start peeing blood) 50dbol 100adrol ED. Slin will be added working up to 60iu's per day. I can't afford GH

1g test-e EW
1g deca EW
1g tren-e EW
50 dbol ED
100 adrol ED
60 iu's slin split into 3 injections ED

Cycle support: He gave me some liver pills to take (prescription). I will also use metformin (IDK what dose)
pramipexole at .25mg per day
letro at 1g E2D
nolva at 10-20mg E2D

PCT with torem and HCG 4 weeks after last shot

Look peachy?

clarification: HCG will be used before PCT not during it

[austinite]

Woah. Way too many compounds. This is abuse. Your friend does not have your best interest. I would scrap ALL of that.

What is your body fat percentage?

[Capebuffalo]

Holy hell. You ran a gram of test your first cycle. And you want to run a gram of tren on your second cycle?

Is your friend your dealer as well?

Crazy and not safe.

[Red Bastard]

F'n huge doses!! Besides what Austinite said about too many compounds, cutting the doses in half would still produce impressive gains, with strong side effects!

[dren]

Do you think he can die of this cycle?

[V-ROID]

If I was abducted by aliens, taken back in time and forced to be a gladiator I might consider doing that cycle... Jesus man I just had an anxiety attack imagining that!

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

okay so how about cutting the tren?

[clarky.]

No chance your taking the piss 1g of this that and the next thing can the guy no count here mate just take 1 of every thing good luck with that.

[Standby]

over 3grams of gear a week on a second cycle not to mention 1gram on first. damn dude read up here for you best cycle info and put a good clean safer one together yourself then ask us about that one and we will help

[Cuz]

your gonna explode dude. How were the sides on your first cycle at 1000mg test? That's more than I could handle.

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

I don't know why everybody is ripping on the 1g test cycle. It's a great first cycle! it's pretty subtle...the results kinda creep up on you. I had slightly elevated hemocrit and RBC coming off the cycle but nothing major

chad. no sides to speak of. just slow steady gains for the last 10 weeks

[Cuz]

Great first cycle? a lot of guys don't even run test until they have done a couple of more mild compounds. Test 250 for 12 weeks would be more of a first cycle. A gram is getting up there. Do all you want I don't care, its just more than I think is needed. I think I could gain the same results off 500mg but im not an expert on here like some of the more experienced guys. Let them explain.

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

Great first cycle? a lot of guys don't even run test until they have done a couple of more mild compounds. Test 250 for 12 weeks would be more of a first cycle. A gram is getting up there. Do all you want I don't care, its just more than I think is needed. I think I could gain the same results off 500mg but im not an expert on here like some of the more experienced guys. Let them explain.

I would strongly encourage a 1g test cycle as a first cycle. I'm also wondering what is more mild than test? eq?

[Cuz]

test is king

[crazy mike]

I think you know what your doing and just don't give a rat's a$$ until your in some bad state of health. I also think your out to impress us with this overboard cycle. I'm an old addict and I liked doing seriously crazy doses and thought that I impressed all my druggy friends. Came to find out they didn't like me and that's why they cheered me on to do extreme doses. Then I was never satisfied. Steroids are drugs, I like them but I try not to be the old fvckup and FVCK UP. That's what you are doing so no advice or critiquing from old mikey. In my age I can see them coming and I can see you....crazy mike

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

^^

I actually didn't realize these were crazy doses. I thought my friend knew what he was talking about. you guys are enlightening me, i guess

[crazy mike]

^^

I actually didn't realize these were crazy doses. I thought my friend knew what he was talking about. you guys are enlightening me, i guess

I see water retention, water retention at your ankles, I see high blood pressure, headaches, 24 hr. sweats unbearable at night, I see chills with that. Estrogen up and down, mood swings, heart palpitations and more. Yea, not everyone gets these sides, but with where your headed I think you will experience so many at these high doses and so many compounds, a very serious sickly cycle doing more damage than good. NO good. . I think you believe that you can run your system like a dial in and get linear results from plugging in one compound after another. Personally myself, me...I've never seen such a horrific cycle or even the notion. I said I would not go here with you and with that I will stop and let you get better help somewhere else. Sorry to be so adamant or testy (NOP PUN) but that's . ...crazy mike good luck again



AND pics for the audience ????.

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

^^ okay I will not run this cycle. maybe you could recommend something else?

pics for audience: been off gear for 2.5 months. five eleven. 242 pounds

i guess i cant post pics

[Cuz]

I agree with crazymike

whats your bf%?

[Chx beach 79]

That guy does not have your best interest at heart!!!! That's enough stuff to kill a horse... Lol

[Lunk1]

I'd run it

[Money Talks]

History: I have done 1 cycle of test-e at 1g per week for 15 weeks.
Stats: five eleven 242 pounds. 385x4 bench (before a recent pec tear). 655 deadlift
Goals for this cycle: mostly mass

This is what my friend gave me: He says always use a base of 1g test. He said to add 1g deca for mass and another 1g of tren-e for mass + strength. Orals will be run 4 weeks on 2 off (unless I start peeing blood) 50dbol 100adrol ED. Slin will be added working up to 60iu's per day. I can't afford GH

1g test-e EW
1g deca EW
1g tren-e EW
50 dbol ED
100 adrol ED
60 iu's slin split into 3 injections ED

Cycle support: He gave me some liver pills to take (prescription). I will also use metformin (IDK what dose)
pramipexole at .25mg per day
letro at 1g E2D
nolva at 10-20mg E2D

PCT with torem and HCG 4 weeks after last shot

Look peachy?

clarification: HCG will be used before PCT not during it

Wow. Hey man, I am the same height as you, and about the same weight, and though I am not quite as strong as you (yet), I am only using 600mg of test cypionate on cycle.

I know what your thought is, as before I did some research, I had the same thought. Since we were already bigger and much closer to our natural potential before we started cycling (I was 235 pounds natural with a 500+ pound deadlift and a 400+ pound squat), the same dosages that are recommended for the 175 pound guys wouldn't be enough.

Fortunately I did substantial research before diving in, and even my big butt made great gains on my first cycle which was only 500mg/test every week. The way I see it now is that because my body hasn't adapted to those higher dosages, I will be able to make great gains on smaller amounts, and save a great deal of money. Just a thought.

[Money Talks]

^^ okay I will not run this cycle. maybe you could recommend something else?

pics for audience: been off gear for 2.5 months. five eleven. 242 pounds

i guess i cant post pics

Hey I just caught this post. You say you have only been off for 2.5 months.

You said in your first post that you ran a 15 week cycle. From your last shot, you should wait at least 3 weeks before starting PCT to allow the exogenous test to get out of your system. PCT should last at least 4 weeks.

At that point it is suggested you stay off for at least length of cycle + PCT, or in your case:

15 weeks cycle + 3 weeks + 4 weeks PCT = 22 weeks (about 5 months off)

I know that may seem like a very long time off, but it will give your body time to recover. Have you at least had a blood test done recently to make sure that your last PCT was successful?

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

^^
I was actually only 195 natty. shredded with a 375 bench and a 595 dead. 1g test did alot for me. i doubt you were very lean at 235 bro, but i might be underestimating you.

I also was under the impression that adapting to a dose was bullshit, but IDK.

what second cycle would you recommend?

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

Hey I just caught this post. You say you have only been off for 2.5 months.

You said in your first post that you ran a 15 week cycle. From your last shot, you should wait at least 3 weeks before starting PCT to allow the exogenous test to get out of your system. PCT should last at least 4 weeks.

At that point it is suggested you stay off for at least length of cycle + PCT, or in your case:

15 weeks cycle + 3 weeks + 4 weeks PCT = 22 weeks (about 5 months off)

I know that may seem like a very long time off, but it will give your body time to recover. Have you at least had a blood test done recently to make sure that your last PCT was successful?

well i'm over 3 months from my last shot. I had bloods the day of my last injection but not coming off of PCT, no.

[BlueWaffle21]

Sometimes I read these and think of Razor or Mick just posting this stuff to be dicks!!!

[< <Samson> >]

Sometimes I read these and think of Razor or Mick just posting this stuff to be dicks!!!

Maybe, very possible

If you think you need this juice post a pic with with a written steroid.com on it

Otherwise, this is complete BS

[Times Roman]

History: I have done 1 cycle of test-e at 1g per week for 15 weeks.
Stats: five eleven 242 pounds. 385x4 bench (before a recent pec tear). 655 deadlift
Goals for this cycle: mostly mass

This is what my friend gave me: He says always use a base of 1g test. He said to add 1g deca for mass and another 1g of tren-e for mass + strength. Orals will be run 4 weeks on 2 off (unless I start peeing blood) 50dbol 100adrol ED. Slin will be added working up to 60iu's per day. I can't afford GH

1g test-e EW
1g deca EW
1g tren-e EW
50 dbol ED
100 adrol ED
60 iu's slin split into 3 injections ED

Cycle support: He gave me some liver pills to take (prescription). I will also use metformin (IDK what dose)
pramipexole at .25mg per day
letro at 1g E2D
nolva at 10-20mg E2D

PCT with torem and HCG 4 weeks after last shot

Look peachy?

clarification: HCG will be used before PCT not during it

1) 3grams of anabolics plus two orals is totally overkill
2) you have no experience with any of these compounds except one time with testosterone
3) You need to learn that moderation is key....."grow into your cycle". You act as if this is the last cycle you will ever take

this cycle for you is a failure

Sorry for the criticism
---Roman

[crazy mike]

Where have you been this evening TR. Took you a while to get over here. Good evening . ...crazy mike

[Money Talks]

well i'm over 3 months from my last shot. I had bloods the day of my last injection but not coming off of PCT, no.

Before you hop back on, I would get another test to make sure you are good to go.

What were your numbers like while still on cycle?

Oh and are you saying you went from 195 pounds to 242 pounds on your first cycle? That you gained nearly 50 pounds on your first cycle? If you were lean before, I imagine that is no longer the case.

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

Before you hop back on, I would get another test to make sure you are good to go.

What were your numbers like while still on cycle?

Oh and are you saying you went from 195 pounds to 242 pounds on your first cycle? That you gained nearly 50 pounds on your first cycle? If you were lean before, I imagine that is no longer the case.

you are correct. alot of this weight was just my glycogen stores filling up while transitioning from cutting to bulking. I also gained at least 5 percentage points on my bodyfat while on this bulking cycle. In my opinion, this is a good thing. It was a goddam BULKING cycle. I crammed food down my throat for 15 weeks strait until I was about ready to puke. I would hit 7kcals on a bad day. 9-10k on a good day. Steroids are only as good as your diet.

But I would like to think that 20-25 pounds of that mass gain was muscle.

Edit: my blood looked good on cycle. like I said before, my hemocrit and RBC was elevated. test was off the charts. Oh and my ldl's were elevated from the crazy amount of calories i was intaking. I could pull out the exact numbers if you want

[< <Samson> >]

> > > > bs < < < <

[austinite]

what is your current body fat percentage?

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

^^

IDK like 15. I TRIED TO UPLOAD A PIC, BUT AM UNAUTHORIZED TO DO SO

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

here's a pic for you austin. pecs look like shit because i haven't trained them in 3.5 months

i.imgur.com/JveRMpa.jpg?1

[< <Samson> >]

Oh Jesus, lay off the sauce(maybe pin a little test only) & hit the treadmill

[austinite]

here's a pic for you austin. pecs look like shit because i haven't trained them in 3.5 months

i.imgur.com/JveRMpa.jpg?1

That's over 20%. I really don't see 242 lbs, is that accurate or a typo?

[< <Samson> >]

That's over 20%. I really don't see 242 lbs, is that accurate or a typo?

It's 240, I know I been there & I'm not going back. Sounds just like my first cycle.

You will, maybe - the hard way.


It's not the juice that makes you. Again >

1. Diet

2. Lift(& lift well)

3. Add the sauce < we all know it works

4. Give it time < a long time, but it will happen

[Cuz]

10k cals a day, and your only 240??? I would be over 300lbs and dead of a heart attack. da fuq? how many cals were you eating when you say you were "195 and shredded"?

[Standby]

if i ate 10k a day and took over 3grams of gear a week youd probably be finding pieces of mu heart down in mexico after it exploded. not to mention the other 500lbs of fat hanging off my dead body