Competitive athlete First cycle... maybe?

[OldDirty]

First off I'm young, 20 years old and I've read all of the "young and steroid" type forums. The issue is I'm not a bodybuilder or or just lifting weights to look good. Appearance isn't one of my goals. I'm a competitive athlete and it's pretty well known that everyone in my sport is using in some capacity. I don't want to miss the chance at doing this for a living just because I wasn't willing to do what my competitors are already doing.

If I do this I was considering this
1 – 12 Test E 250mg/2wk
1 – 14.5 HCG 250iu day before
1 – 12 Aromsin .25mg eod

Start PCT week 15-18
(would appreciate all advice on the cycle)

Hight- 5'7
Weight- 170
Body fat- 12% (guess)
I've been lifting/training for a little over 7 years
Thanks ahead of time I could use all the advice I can get.

[starscream]

What is your sport of you don't mind me asking?

[OldDirty]

I'm not worldwide known but a few people could know who I am so it probably best I don't say. You might be able to tell by my picture and comments

[OnTheSauce]

At that height or weight football is out. Tennis?

[starscream]

At that height or weight football is out. Tennis?

If that's the case I don't know that "everyone" in the sport is doping.. Maybe the Williams sisters.. Ha

[starscream]

I'd still say get as far natural as you can first..

[OnTheSauce]

If that's the case I don't know that "everyone" in the sport is doping.. Maybe the Williams sisters.. Ha

baseball maybe then, but unless a pro, nobody would recognize or know him at all

[starscream]

I'm not worldwide known but a few people could know who I am so it probably best I don't say. You might be able to tell by my picture and comments

Might be able to tell by your comments? That was your second post.. First started this thread..

Bot?

[OldDirty]

Might be able to tell by your comments? That was your second post.. First started this thread..

Bot?

sorry i meant the original post and thanks for the advice I need all I can get. because at the end of the day I don't want to look back and say i should have just done it, but i also understand it could cause problems too.

[OldDirty]

defiantly not tennis

lets just weightlifting and strength is a major part of the sport

[OnTheSauce]

Beer pong

[OldDirty]

This has just turned into a guessing game

[fit2bOld]

Whatever it is your upper body is lacking. You don't need juice you need a solid diet and training.

[qscgugcsq]

I would say baseball, but no matter what sport you are talking about. take example on canseco. He turned pro before starting anything.

If you need steroids to reach the same level as other natural. it's not a good thing... if you can't diet and train hard enough to reach it naturally, you will always be dependent on steroids. and you'll get caught eventually, and you will end up with nothing...

Use steroids as a plus, not as a must...

And at your age, and weight you should be able to grow way more with only good diet and training.

If you really want to live from your sport, you'll need way more dedication than steroids...

[starscream]

This has just turned into a guessing game

Sorry for getting off track with that it really is irrelevant..

At any rate I'd say you have natural work to do still though. If improving for your sport is your goal imo you have time! Training naturally and building a strong base is more than just getting big. Experience, will power and strength comes with hard work and dedication and that will make you a better athlete and all around well rounded individual.

I play semi pro football (American) so I understand your situation. My league doesn't even test or anything so it's really easy to do. But I have yet to begin my first cycle because I feel I'm not at the base point I would like to be. I'm 26, 5'10" and 245lbs offensive and defensive lineman. Looking to get a bit leaner before I cycle.. I'm about 20%bf would like to get under 15 or so..

That all being said.. To digress back to your actual question. I think your cycle sounds pretty good.. I've had guys recommend test only for the first cycle others have recommended test-e or test-c with an oral but it seems like the general consensus is leave out the oral in the first cycle and obviously be sure to have your pct lined out.

[OldDirty]

I would say baseball, but no matter what sport you are talking about. take example on canseco. He turned pro before starting anything.

If you need steroids to reach the same level as other natural. it's not a good thing... if you can't diet and train hard enough to reach it naturally, you will always be dependent on steroids. and you'll get caught eventually, and you will end up with nothing...

Use steroids as a plus, not as a must...

And at your age, and weight you should be able to grow way more with only good diet and training.

If you really want to live from your sport, you'll need way more dedication than steroids...

i already make money it's a matter of making this my future as well. but that being said thank you for the advice.

[OldDirty]

Sorry for getting off track with that it really is irrelevant..

At any rate I'd say you have natural work to do still though. If improving for your sport is your goal imo you have time! Training naturally and building a strong base is more than just getting big. Experience, will power and strength comes with hard work and dedication and that will make you a better athlete and all around well rounded individual.

I play semi pro football (American) so I understand your situation. My league doesn't even test or anything so it's really easy to do. But I have yet to begin my first cycle because I feel I'm not at the base point I would like to be. I'm 26, 5'10" and 245lbs offensive and defensive lineman. Looking to get a bit leaner before I cycle.. I'm about 20%bf would like to get under 15 or so..

That all being said.. To digress back to your actual question. I think your cycle sounds pretty good.. I've had guys recommend test only for the first cycle others have recommended test-e or test-c with an oral but it seems like the general consensus is leave out the oral in the first cycle and obviously be sure to have your pct lined out.

thanks for the advice and I know how you feel

[Fcarey32]

No offense to the vets here... But you won't understand the mentality of a competing athlete unless you were one yourself, I'm a professional fighter, I get what this guy is talking about, I get he's young & all, but a serious athlete is gunna do whatever it takes guys, might as well make sure he does it safely as possible. But I do agree with them as you should try & pack on some more natty mass first. Doing that you'll be conditioning your tendons & joints & will help prevent an injury when you do venture into the world of AAS. Go hit up the diet section though, there's ALWAYS room to improve your diet.
Good luck buddy.