My "Clinician" wont switch me to IM FROM CREAM!!!

[Tnatious]

I emailed the doctors assistant "S" this am basically asking to switch my administration method from Cream to IM. Check this out:

"First of all good morning and hope you had a good vacation or business trip.
I received my cream yesterday and quickly noticed its effects! I woke up this morning with my flag at full mast! Lol! I know too much info but your a precessional.
I told "Jess" (the secretary) I would love to switch to twice a week injections versus the creams. She told me Doc. --------- Is "hesitant" in prescribing this administration? I feel that I'm not near my full potential...it has helped; yes but I would like to be at the top of my ranges. Also, after running out a week early- I see there can be complications! Applying the cream in the morning after shower and before work and then when I get home after shower. It's such a hassle! Plus, I have meet a new girl and know its going to go to the "intimate" side VERY soon!
Trust me "S": I am VERY THANKFUL for what I have achieved in this short amount of time...but this is a life long process I am going to live with. 2 shots a week sounds much easier than 14 applications of lotion to my chest, underarms etc.
Also I'm reading where people on 200mg of cream a week have a common test amount in the 600's. they switch to IM at 65-75mg 2xweekly and their levels are 1000-1100!
Just figured since were paying so much I might aswell go for what will benefit me the most!
Thanks again for EVERYTHING and welcome back!
Have a nice day- I'm off to work.

*After receiving an email back saying that I have no choice in the matter I responded with an email basically asking the question...
"Is it safe to believe that a patient should have a say in administration methods?"
Here is his email back...

"It would be incorrect to state that the administration of choice is the patient's. If I would to pose that remark to Dr. ----------, she most certainly would tell a patient to go elsewhere for the script. The physician has the authority to prescribe as testosterone is a controlled drug as well as to not prescribe it. Testosterone places a much stiffer control by the DEA/FDA and the doctor chooses the mode of use not the patient. Injectable version by definition is considered an anabolic steroid as the molecule is not "testosterone is testosterone." It is made of esters such as cypionate and enanthate the exact same items now being tested for by the major sports organizations and IOC. Testosterone by gel and cream has no esters and has less of legal issue than injectable. You had previously even mentioned in a past email the use of anabolic oral steroids (i somply asked what they were and why would someone be prescribed them) which we do not prescribe nor would even choose to do. The sole choice of prescription is Dr. -------- and her authority only...most levels we see with cream range from around 750-1000 however, our goal is NOT total testosterone levels on labwork. Our goal is the change in free levels where the 'internet' fails to discuss and to see the other hormone markers such as estrogen, DHEA, and thyroid too. We want free levels t be from 125-225 on Quest and 16-25 via Labcorp levels. The total is not of our concern as it means little to how the hormone is functioning. The free levels determine function not total levels."

He has great points BUT what about the fact cream IS a hassle?

[Bliggity]

Screw that shit! Find a new doctor who is willing to listen and work with you as a partner for your health. And WTF is that nonsense about injections being considered anabolic steroids?!

[100%]

I emailed the doctors assistant "S" this am basically asking to switch my administration method from Cream to IM. Check this out:

"First of all good morning and hope you had a good vacation or business trip.
I received my cream yesterday and quickly noticed its effects! I woke up this morning with my flag at full mast! Lol! I know too much info but your a precessional.
I told "Jess" (the secretary) I would love to switch to twice a week injections versus the creams. She told me Doc. --------- Is "hesitant" in prescribing this administration? I feel that I'm not near my full potential...it has helped; yes but I would like to be at the top of my ranges. Also, after running out a week early- I see there can be complications! Applying the cream in the morning after shower and before work and then when I get home after shower. It's such a hassle! Plus, I have meet a new girl and know its going to go to the "intimate" side VERY soon!
Trust me "S": I am VERY THANKFUL for what I have achieved in this short amount of time...but this is a life long process I am going to live with. 2 shots a week sounds much easier than 14 applications of lotion to my chest, underarms etc.
Also I'm reading where people on 200mg of cream a week have a common test amount in the 600's. they switch to IM at 65-75mg 2xweekly and their levels are 1000-1100!
Just figured since were paying so much I might aswell go for what will benefit me the most!
Thanks again for EVERYTHING and welcome back!
Have a nice day- I'm off to work.

*After receiving an email back saying that I have no choice in the matter I responded with an email basically asking the question...
"Is it safe to believe that a patient should have a say in administration methods?"
Here is his email back...

"It would be incorrect to state that the administration of choice is the patient's. If I would to pose that remark to Dr. ----------, she most certainly would tell a patient to go elsewhere for the script. The physician has the authority to prescribe as testosterone is a controlled drug as well as to not prescribe it. Testosterone places a much stiffer control by the DEA/FDA and the doctor chooses the mode of use not the patient. Injectable version by definition is considered an anabolic steroid as the molecule is not "testosterone is testosterone." It is made of esters such as cypionate and enanthate the exact same items now being tested for by the major sports organizations and IOC. Testosterone by gel and cream has no esters and has less of legal issue than injectable. You had previously even mentioned in a past email the use of anabolic oral steroids (i somply asked what they were and why would someone be prescribed them) which we do not prescribe nor would even choose to do. The sole choice of prescription is Dr. -------- and her authority only...most levels we see with cream range from around 750-1000 however, our goal is NOT total testosterone levels on labwork. Our goal is the change in free levels where the 'internet' fails to discuss and to see the other hormone markers such as estrogen, DHEA, and thyroid too. We want free levels t be from 125-225 on Quest and 16-25 via Labcorp levels. The total is not of our concern as it means little to how the hormone is functioning. The free levels determine function not total levels."

He has great points BUT what about the fact cream IS a hassle?

That statement is moronic. Does he think a pro athlete would be any less banned for using testosterone cream over a injecting testosterone.

[powerlifterty16]

Screw that shit! Find a new doctor who is willing to listen and work with you as a partner for your health. And WTF is that nonsense about injections being considered anabolic steroids?!

trt=anabolic steroids.

[jasc]

Sounds like you need a new doc.

Next time I'd justify your switch differently though. Express your concern of gel transfer to your wife/gf and children. This is a real risk and is more likely to go over well than the "hassle" of application.

[powerlifterty16]

That statement is moronic. Does he think a pro athlete would be any less banned for using testosterone cream over a injecting testosterone.

to be fair it does sound kind of ridiculous to think of an athlete taking cream for bodybuilding. conan o brian was talking about charlie sheen ''roiding out'' on test cream, and it just seemed odd to me..even though you are right they are both t.

[bigdippin]

**** that shit. Find a new place to go or just pay out of pocket like I do. $200 a month isn't bad for feeling great.

[dreadnok89]

Dbol, DECA, winsterol are NOT the same as androgel

[Bliggity]

trt=anabolic steroids.

It was the context with which his doctor described injections as being AAS and therefore somehow wrong, compared to creams being OK is ludicrous.

[laser]

Most people's insurance does not even cover the creams/gels. Some of that cost almost $400. for just a 30 day supply. If your doctor does not take into consideration your cost, and only worried about their own bottom line...Yes, definitely, be on the look out for a good caring doctor that is not out just for your money, regardless if you have insurance or not, it is still your money. If you can save money, it helps to keep the cost of your insurance down, to include co-pays. Find another Doc, go by your clinic, pick up your labs/records have them ready for your new doc.....When your new Dr. Treats you, inform the old clinic, so they cannot come back, and say you are Doctor shopping.
Oh, and it is none of their business who your new doctor is.

[Tnatious]

Thanks everyone! I've about had it with this clinic and about to make the switch to LOWT.com !
I've sent some emails with various questions to the site and have had straight to-the-point answers in a timely manor! So far they r showing me they mean business!
Btw...for those of u using LOWT.com any part of their operation u don't like? Any words of advice about using their services?

[powerlifterty16]

Thanks everyone! I've about had it with this clinic and about to make the switch to LOWT.com !
I've sent some emails with various questions to the site and have had straight to-the-point answers in a timely manor! So far they r showing me they mean business!
Btw...for those of u using LOWT.com any part of their operation u don't like? Any words of advice about using their services?

i dont use it but someone who has used it told me they dont give as many blood tests as they make it seem..3 in first year and 2 in second year.