Is there anyone here that actually competes in Bodybuilding?

[bambam321]

Is there? At a semi high level? Not just one show to say they did and quit? After all, steroids were created for athletes. So confused as to why all these guys on here, who look like they have the shittiest diets and physiques, are critiquing cycles.

Seriously, I am 20 and have competed twice. I am looking to eventually get into the professional ranks and know I have the genetics for it. It is something I am definitely pursuing no matter the negativity. Question is when I should begin using pharmaceuticals. Most pros seem to have started young, minus a few like Coleman. No one gives me straight answers on these forums, its always "youre too young." and always from someone who is 20% BF or looks hungry. Like really? And of course those guys who say, "I started young and I am 30 and haven't seen any bad long term sides. But I am a lucky one." Lucky? Come one, get over yourself.

I am not an idiot who is going to run insane cycles and never come off (to start out). My diet, training, and lifestyle are ALL on point- contrary to typical youngsters. I know I can still make gains naturally, but whats the point if I can triple those gains on gear- in a generally safe manner?

I know i'll probably get blasted by many, but is there anyone that has been in the same boat as me? Anyone in national ranks or seriously pursuing a pro card?

[austinite]

Safety is what we pitch here. This will never change, and it will be one of the main things that differentiate us from everyone else. If you're really and truly bothered by this, you're welcome to disconnect from the forums. Seriously not trying to be rude to you (as you were in your offensive comments), but it's really simple. Go elsewhere.

I felt the exact same way about a supplement forum that I joined recently. I quickly realized that I do not "Mesh" with the members. It was the easiest decision I could make when I clicked "Log Off".

Millions of people out there, we can't make everyone happy. But to answer your titled question, yes, we have plenty of bodybuilders that most couldn't even fathom reaching their level and they live the lifestyle.

Best of luck to you.

[bambam321]

I am not saying this site in particular. But I haven't seen a competitor give feedback or advice or any forum.

[austinite]

Well, not everyone cares to tell you that they're competitive. Most of the real competitors are not 20 years old and just not as excited about it you might be. It's just a way of life. "Been there, done that" type of attitude so they're generally not all over the boards posting away. This generalization has more to do with your perception than reality.

How many guys do you think you're actually going to find online that are 280+ lbs at 6% BF? Maybe stick to reading books from ex- pro's instead of searching for an online coach.

[ksingh93]

Is there? At a semi high level? Not just one show to say they did and quit? After all, steroids were created for athletes. So confused as to why all these guys on here, who look like they have the shittiest diets and physiques, are critiquing cycles.

Seriously, I am 20 and have competed twice. I am looking to eventually get into the professional ranks and know I have the genetics for it. It is something I am definitely pursuing no matter the negativity. Question is when I should begin using pharmaceuticals. Most pros seem to have started young, minus a few like Coleman. No one gives me straight answers on these forums, its always "youre too young." and always from someone who is 20% BF or looks hungry. Like really? And of course those guys who say, "I started young and I am 30 and haven't seen any bad long term sides. But I am a lucky one." Lucky? Come one, get over yourself.

I am not an idiot who is going to run insane cycles and never come off (to start out). My diet, training, and lifestyle are ALL on point- contrary to typical youngsters. I know I can still make gains naturally, but whats the point if I can triple those gains on gear- in a generally safe manner?

I know i'll probably get blasted by many, but is there anyone that has been in the same boat as me? Anyone in national ranks or seriously pursuing a pro card?

steroids were not made for athletes they were made for people who are fighting with hiv or cancer ,who cant produce natural test, etc .
if u want to compete and get to the pro level you have to use insane doses and for long period and thats the truth
if u want to use em to compete first research on em as much u can .
good luck

[bambam321]

Most pro's don't even get to that number, and zero. I am not looking for a coach, I'm looking for advice from competitors. All I see is 170 pound guys with 12% BF with no intention on ever competing giving advice. But never mind guy, I guess you cannot help me..

[austinite]

Most pro's don't even get to that number, and zero. I am not looking for a coach, I'm looking for advice from competitors. All I see is 170 pound guys with 12% BF with no intention on ever competing giving advice. But never mind guy, I guess you cannot help me..

No one can help you.

[bambam321]

steroids were not made for athletes they were made for people who are fighting with hiv or cancer ,who cant produce natural test, etc .
if u want to compete and get to the pro level you have to use insane doses and for long period and thats the truth
if u want to use em to compete first research on em as much u can .
good luck

I meant like dbol but yeah true.

And I guess I was wondering more about the beginning cycles rather than when they're on them year round. Like I was leaning more toward Test E 500mg/week only with Adex throughout and hcg/nolva PCT.

Yes of course, I need to research more!

[PistolPete33]

This kid along with all other kids under 22 do nothing but show their ignorance. This generation really sucks...

[PistolPete33]

Nobody here is going to help you with a cycle first of all. Also, since you came on here insulting everyone that is just going to ensure that nobody helps you with a cycle.

[ksingh93]

Most pro's don't even get to that number, and zero. I am not looking for a coach, I'm looking for advice from competitors. All I see is 170 pound guys with 12% BF with no intention on ever competing giving advice. But never mind guy, I guess you cannot help me..

austinite is an experienced memeber and he knows way more than many of us .give some respect

[bambam321]

This kid along with all other kids under 22 do nothing but show their ignorance. This generation really sucks...

My natural stats are more impressive than most of you guys who've been cycling for years on end. Thats what really sucks...

[ksingh93]

I meant like dbol but yeah true.

And I guess I was wondering more about the beginning cycles rather than when they're on them year round. Like I was leaning more toward Test E 500mg/week only with Adex throughout and hcg/nolva PCT.

Yes of course, I need to research more!

if u want to compete and i mean a serious competitior there is no beginning or ending cycle you have to be on gear u have to eat right train right . sides are more than the reward

[kelkel]

My natural stats are more impressive than most of you guys who've been cycling for years on end. Thats what really sucks...

So post some CURRENT pics! Lets see what you're made of......

[crazy mike]

if u want to compete and i mean a serious competitior there is no beginning or ending cycle you have to be on gear u have to eat right train right . sides are more than the reward

Dude you are arguing and don't have a clue as to what you are doing or saying. Where is your experience and longevity in and around this sport. Just saying quit the bullsh!t of telling what you don't know.

My natural stats are more impressive than most of you guys who've been cycling for years on end. Thats what really sucks...

You on the other hand are rude to the people who have studied before you and your short time in this sport kiddo! At what age you speak. Oh and lets see the pics with proof they arte you smart ass. Now You just mention your natural stats. Well stupid that means you are genetically gifted and have not yet gotten to the point to where the hard work comes in. This inclusive of training programs, diet, and the healthy use of aas. Lord knows It will take years and you still want to be alive when you get there.

Now when you have reached where I was back in the 80's and owned a gym, and trained a few successful , at least small time winners I suggest you take your ass and get to the gym. I myself have worked hard and studied and trained and until you can say you've bee where I have almost forgotten you need start to offer help on here instead of strife. Your attitude of arrogance and false pride show your age. ...crazy , Maybe not, ...mike

[OnTheSauce]

I compete in powerlifting and lift with quite a few very successful bodybuilders. That count?

[fit2bOld]

I competed at levels that could have led to nationals had I stayed in. But life happens you get married and buy a house. There is more info here then I ever had access to. I credit diet as the best drug I ever used.

[crazy mike]

So post some CURRENT pics! Lets see what you're made of......

As I asked and as Kel asked where's those pictures, kid....you made the claim. ...crazy mike

[jimmyinkedup]

My natural stats are more impressive than most of you guys who've been cycling for years on end. Thats what really sucks...

Perhaps we should discuss the level of emotional maturity required before someone introduces potent androgens into their body - given their emotional as well as physical effects. Just a thought.

[austinite]

OP... here you go, this thread will help resolve this issue.

[Fcastle357]

Funny I clicked on the thread and out the door I went

[Times Roman]

all i can say is if you don't like the advice, then don't take it.

each board has a certain culture about it. If you don't like the culture here, you are always free to find one that suits your needs better.

Good luck!
---Roman

[Ashop]

Is there? At a semi high level? Not just one show to say they did and quit? After all, steroids were created for athletes. So confused as to why all these guys on here, who look like they have the shittiest diets and physiques, are critiquing cycles.

Seriously, I am 20 and have competed twice. I am looking to eventually get into the professional ranks and know I have the genetics for it. It is something I am definitely pursuing no matter the negativity. Question is when I should begin using pharmaceuticals. Most pros seem to have started young, minus a few like Coleman. No one gives me straight answers on these forums, its always "youre too young." and always from someone who is 20% BF or looks hungry. Like really? And of course those guys who say, "I started young and I am 30 and haven't seen any bad long term sides. But I am a lucky one." Lucky? Come one, get over yourself.

I am not an idiot who is going to run insane cycles and never come off (to start out). My diet, training, and lifestyle are ALL on point- contrary to typical youngsters. I know I can still make gains naturally, but whats the point if I can triple those gains on gear- in a generally safe manner?

I know i'll probably get blasted by many, but is there anyone that has been in the same boat as me? Anyone in national ranks or seriously pursuing a pro card?

We train and have trained numerous top level athletes in many sports.

[Cuz]

im just as impressed with some of the top guys on here that don't compete. There are a few on here that compete I believe maybe not top notch national level. I don't think we have any Olympia contestants lol. And afterall, genetics don't play as much of a role as you think now adays, its who can do the most gear/gh/slin/synthol and get away with not killing thereselves. Its all about who can outdo who, for instance if he takes 2 grams a week of test, the surely I can take 2.5 grams.

disrespecting some of the very knowledgeable members is not going to get you anywhere on this forum. To add there are plenty of guys younger than you abusing gear, should you? It all depends on how much you value your health and wellbeing. Is it worth permanent damage that you will live with until your death?, or wait a few more years you decide?

[GirlyGymRat]

Funny I clicked on the thread and out the door I went

X2. Hahaha.

[AD]

i used to compete when i was younger. in the Mathematics Olympiad. i stopped when i realize i like Biology more.

[spiralkut]

I dont see what the difference is weather someone competes or not? im 230 lbs with low BF% but i can guarantee there are guys on here probably 30lbs less then me with more knowledge purely from reading a lot more. Your size has nothing to do with the knowledge of the steroids lol.

[austinite]

i used to compete when i was younger. in the Mathematics Olympiad. i stopped when i realize i like Biology more.

Ar-r produced 300 bottles of Liquid Cialis the first week of the month. They hired more employees and production went up by 50% from week 1 to week 2. How many bottles of Liquid Cia did they produce in week 2?

[itsjayman02]

OP... here you go, this thread will help resolve this issue.

Haha !!!

[AD]

Ar-r produced 300 bottles of Liquid Cialis the first week of the month. They hired more employees and production went up by 50% from week 1 to week 2. How many bottles of Liquid Cia did they produce in week 2?

it depends on whether these new workers compete or not. cos if they don't compete, they won't know how to differentiate Liquid Cia from Liquid V.

[austinite]

it depends on whether these new workers compete or not. cos if they don't compete, they won't know how to differentiate Liquid Cia from Liquid V.

lmao. I see why you switched to Biology.

[Megalodon6]

Loud noises!!

[PistolPete33]

He emailed me his picture because he didn't know how to upload it. He is pretty genetically gifted.

[crazy mike]

Ah ha !! this has turned out to be a funny thread. LMASO. Math to biology ha! we see why ah, ha, ha

I didn't want to hurt the champ MR Olympia in 1990 so I just quit while I was ahead with my fantastic genetics, ha, ha, ha. I just can't find the pictures for you guys right now, just hang on and I'll post them soon ..............ah, ha, ha, Haaa!!!!! ...crazy mike

[--->>405<<---]

So post some CURRENT pics! Lets see what you're made of......

this id like to see! i doubt we will get to though..

[-KJ-]

Same here wouldn't mind seeing these pics

[austinite]

LOL. Sorry Joey, but you leave crap online, it becomes public domain...

[GirlyGymRat]

Ah ha !! this has turned out to be a funny thread. LMASO. Math to biology ha! we see why ah, ha, ha

I didn't want to hurt the champ MR Olympia in 1990 so I just quit while I was ahead with my fantastic genetics, ha, ha, ha. I just can't find the pictures for you guys right now, just hang on and I'll post them soon ..............ah, ha, ha, Haaa!!!!! ...crazy mike

Lets see these pics CM!!!!

[Buddyguy]

Is there? At a semi high level? Not just one show to say they did and quit? After all, steroids were created for athletes. So confused as to why all these guys on here, who look like they have the shittiest diets and physiques, are critiquing cycles.

Seriously, I am 20 and have competed twice. I am looking to eventually get into the professional ranks and know I have the genetics for it. It is something I am definitely pursuing no matter the negativity. Question is when I should begin using pharmaceuticals. Most pros seem to have started young, minus a few like Coleman. No one gives me straight answers on these forums, its always "youre too young." and always from someone who is 20% BF or looks hungry. Like really? And of course those guys who say, "I started young and I am 30 and haven't seen any bad long term sides. But I am a lucky one." Lucky? Come one, get over yourself.

I am not an idiot who is going to run insane cycles and never come off (to start out). My diet, training, and lifestyle are ALL on point- contrary to typical youngsters. I know I can still make gains naturally, but whats the point if I can triple those gains on gear- in a generally safe manner?

I know i'll probably get blasted by many, but is there anyone that has been in the same boat as me? Anyone in national ranks or seriously pursuing a pro card?

If you're serious about becoming pro..look up Boston Lloyd on YouTube I think his channel is called bostin69 he won some big bodybuilding show in California at the age of 20/21..think its called costra con or some shyt.. he talks about all the drugs he's used in a 30 min video..he also takes clients

[OnTheSauce]

And afterall, genetics don't play as much of a role as you think now adays, its who can do the most gear/gh/slin/synthol and get away with not killing thereselves.

Disagree completely.