my routine, suggestions?

[btrizzyb]

I started out lifting 4 days a week:
Chest/biceps
Back/triceps
Shoulders/traps
Legs


I've been seeing gains, but I'm not satisfied with them, so I've been lifting 6 days a week instead of 4, using the same plan but starting the cycle over for the last 2 days. Was this a good idea or not?

I shoot for 3 sets on 4 excercises for each muscle because I readin a different thread that is what I should be doing. What do you guys suggest are the best 4 lifts for each muscle to help me bulk?

[austinite]

Try doing legs after chest day and take a day off after back/triceps.

[btrizzyb]

Try doing legs after chest day and take a day off after back/triceps.

So you believe the lifting 6 days a week is fine then as long as I change my days around and take my day off after back?

[bob87]

At the moment I'm training,

Legs
Chest
Back
Abs calves
Shoulders
Arms

It's preference and what works for you.

[RipOwens]

Also, why biceps on chest day? Nothing wrong with it per se but so much chest work involves triceps. Just a thought.

[starscream]

Also, why biceps on chest day? Nothing wrong with it per se but so much chest work involves triceps. Just a thought.

I was wondering the same.. Again it is all about what works for the individual, but I like to train chest with triceps and back with biceps.
It's almost impossible to work chest without tri's and back without bi's so you might as well say you train back and arms, then chest and arms..

Not preferred by myself but if you like it I say why not.

As for my advice on the matter, in my opinion if you aren't seeing gains it's a good idea to first look at your diet! If you are eating right and still not gaining you can look into different training methods. Things like forced reps, forced contractions, partial reps etc..
Personally I have fallen in love with a technique called Hellcentrics, created by Tom Fuller. They are hard to explain so I'll just let you check it out http://www.hellcentrics.com/ HIGHLY RECOMMEND!

As far as the 6 days a week training.. I personally train 6 days a week:
Mon: Chest/Triceps
Tue: Back/biceps
Wed: Rest
Thu: Legs
Fri: Shoulders
Sat: Full body
Sun: Full body (Tabata cardio)

Sat is mostly light weight high rep and Sunday is all either bodyweight tabata or lightly weighted tabata.

But I know of a lot of people who only train 4 days and swear by that too..

[RipOwens]

Very true, whatever works. And I agree with Austin too, try inserting legs after chest day for a better break-up. You grow when you rest.

[austinite]

So you believe the lifting 6 days a week is fine then as long as I change my days around and take my day off after back?

More than enough. I train each body part only 3 times a month.