training twice a day for size and bf loss?

[JohnnieWalker]

I'm going back to school soon and was contemplating running a cycle of test prop only. However I changed my mind and realize I don't want to hop on the sauce for another few years at least. I'm looking for some input by some guys who know their nutrition and supplements.

My stats are as follow :
185cm 6ft
185lbs
Age 21
Training experience 3 years
Bf roughly 15%

Here's some pics of myself.

[4drol]

well your bf isnt too high at the moment , i would say focuse on core lifts lift 4 times a week, eat 6 meals a day get that going and then you can assess progress after a good month of hard training

[JohnnieWalker]

well your bf isnt too high at the moment , i would say focuse on core lifts lift 4 times a week, eat 6 meals a day get that going and then you can assess progress after a good month of hard training

Yeah I known it's not that's why I'm trying to get that size but don't want to gain too much weight from fat, because I gain fat around my tits which sucks.

[austinite]

My neck broke looking at the pics. Your body would benefit more from rest than it would from frequent workouts. The only time I think it's ok to train twice daily, is when one of the sessions is cardio only.

[JinNtonic]

One month of training is going to do what?

[JinNtonic]

No need for juice.


You don't look like you lift at all. You can learn all you need to grow without juice if you just start reading. This place has all you need.

[JohnnieWalker]

No need for juice.

You don't look like you lift at all. You can learn all you need to grow without juice if you just start reading. This place has all you need.

Thanks for the chirp, dick. I've been reading bud trust me.

[JohnnieWalker]

My neck broke looking at the pics. Your body would benefit more from rest than it would from frequent workouts. The only time I think it's ok to train twice daily, is when one of the sessions is cardio only.

I'll definitely be doing cardio in the AM along with stretches and either abs or calves (something I can do in 20 mins). Austinite what do you think I should be working on most? Also should I sleep 8 hours minimum? I've heard 6-8 hours is good enough.

Food wise, bulk style diet? Surplus of calories?

[JohnnieWalker]

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johnnie what has ur diet looked like thus far?? what has ur training looked like?? how much cardio have u been doing??

how long have u been dieting and training and doing cardio ??

[krugerr]

You've had good feedback.


My input is to suggest that you learn how to eat properly and diet according to goals. Right now. I would suggest you don't worry about dropping BF. you need to add mass, lots of it.
You don't need to train twice a day, you need to focus on compound lifts, if you don't have a routine, I would strongly suggest HIT, Marcus has a good thread on it.

That's not a dig, take it as constructive.

Edit** yes. Sleep is important. If you don't recover you'll end up on a downward slope to overtraining and exhaustion.

[crazy mike]

You've had good feedback.


My input is to suggest that you learn how to eat properly and diet according to goals. Right now. I would suggest you don't worry about dropping BF. you need to add mass, lots of it.
You don't need to train twice a day, you need to focus on compound lifts, if you don't have a routine, I would strongly suggest HIT, Marcus has a good thread on it.

That's not a dig, take it as constructive.

Edit** yes. Sleep is important. If you don't recover you'll end up on a downward slope to overtraining and exhaustion.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yep, yep Good advise. ...crazy mike

[Brett N]

You've had good feedback.


My input is to suggest that you learn how to eat properly and diet according to goals. Right now. I would suggest you don't worry about dropping BF. you need to add mass, lots of it.
You don't need to train twice a day, you need to focus on compound lifts, if you don't have a routine, I would strongly suggest HIT, Marcus has a good thread on it.

That's not a dig, take it as constructive.

Edit** yes. Sleep is important. If you don't recover you'll end up on a downward slope to overtraining and exhaustion.

Just to add, when he is saying compound lifts he is talking about Squats, Deadlifts, Bench, Rows, Press. These require all your muscles to work together to perform a single act. Nothing like isolation does. These will add mass to your whole body.

This is the HIT thread by Marcus that krugerr was suggesting - http://forums.steroid.com/lifting-te...-training.html

Personally, from a fellow novice lifter. I would suggest some program like Starting Strength or Stronglifts which are both very simple 5X5 workouts. Simple as in not complicated that is.

Don't expect miracles in 4 weeks though. You are young though, you will make very good gains.