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    First cycle advice

    So I'm going to be picking up my stack this week it will be my first I'm 5 9" 184 I was. Just going to go simple originally

    Test e 500mg a week 12 weeks
    Dbol 30 mg a week 6 week
    .5 adex ed
    Clomid for pct I ordered letro just in case

    Now my source threw me a suggestion of

    300 mg of test and 150 of deca every Monday and Thursday and take 50mg of DBall a day and .5 armidex a day

    Im not sure if I want to do the deca though I wanna keep things simple just wanted to ask your opinion as I trust these boards more than him lol

    Also I was considering front loading the test e at 500 mg first dose then 250 standard afterwards although I am leaning against it to see how the body acts first cycle also I was thinking of using test prop last 2 week s to start pct sooner after last injection your advice falls on open ears so I thank you in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuym
    So I'm going to be picking up my stack this week it will be my first I'm 5 9" 184 I was. Just going to go simple originally

    Test e 500mg a week 12 weeks
    Dbol 30 mg a week 6 week
    .5 adex ed
    Clomid for pct I ordered letro just in case

    Now my source threw me a suggestion of

    300 mg of test and 150 of deca every Monday and Thursday and take 50mg of DBall a day and .5 armidex a day

    Im not sure if I want to do the deca though I wanna keep things simple just wanted to ask your opinion as I trust these boards more than him lol

    Also I was considering front loading the test e at 500 mg first dose then 250 standard afterwards although I am leaning against it to see how the body acts first cycle also I was thinking of using test prop last 2 week s to start pct sooner after last injection your advice falls on open ears so I thank you in advance
    At 22 you won't get too many people condoning your decision. You should still have plenty of naturally cycling testosterone at 22 and when combined with the right nutrition plan to drive and sustain LBM, you will achieve solid results.

    Should you choose not to heed the advice and do anabolic compounds, testosterone by itself is a better decision to see how you respond before adding other compounds.

    .5mg of adex daily will do more harm than good. .25mg EOD should suffice. Stay away from letrozole. No HCG? No tamoxifen for your PCT with clomiphene?
    Last edited by MuscleInk; 09-09-2013 at 11:05 PM.

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    I read many places to have the letro on hand just incase I was going to order nolva didn't realize it was also called tamoxifen I can get it though the hcg I haven't heard much about ill look into it not sure when I plan to do the cycle I'm still reading into everything to do it properly the first time without effing my self for life I only plan on one cycle to see what its all about my friend has been on gear for months but i know he's doing something wrong because he's no bigger than me and I doubt he's any stronger but i wouldn't tell him that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuym
    I read many places to have the letro on hand just incase I was going to order nolva didn't realize it was also called tamoxifen I can get it though the hcg I haven't heard much about ill look into it not sure when I plan to do the cycle I'm still reading into everything to do it properly the first time without effing my self for life I only plan on one cycle to see what its all about my friend has been on gear for months but i know he's doing something wrong because he's no bigger than me and I doubt he's any stronger but i wouldn't tell him that lol
    Read the sticky posted by Austinite about planning and executing my first cycle. It's a must read bud.

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    [QUOTE=base4291ball;6669243]Read the sticky posted by Austinite about planning and executing my first cycle. It's a must read bud.[/QUOTE ill look at that THX

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    Steroid forum>steroid questions and answers>stickies>"my first cycle"

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    It the link for you hope that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuym
    I read many places to have the letro on hand just incase I was going to order nolva didn't realize it was also called tamoxifen I can get it though the hcg I haven't heard much about ill look into it not sure when I plan to do the cycle I'm still reading into everything to do it properly the first time without effing my self for life I only plan on one cycle to see what its all about my friend has been on gear for months but i know he's doing something wrong because he's no bigger than me and I doubt he's any stronger but i wouldn't tell him that lol
    He's not eating enough, plain and simple. Steroids aren't magical and if he's not eating well past his TDEE, no steroid will help him grow.

    Ya, sorry, tamoxifen is the commercial name for nolvadex. If you run your adex correctly and control any prolactin changes (if you run deca/NPP), letro won't be needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk

    He's not eating enough, plain and simple. Steroids aren't magical and if he's not eating well past his TDEE, no steroid will help him grow.

    Ya, sorry, tamoxifen is the commercial name for nolvadex. If you run your adex correctly and control any prolactin changes (if you run deca/NPP), letro won't be needed.
    Agreed! I was hoping he'd look at the nutrition part of the article. Honestly without the proper nutrition intake steroids aren't crap. Even if you are eating right you may not be eatin enough. Diet is key

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    Quote Originally Posted by base4291ball

    Agreed! I was hoping he'd look at the nutrition part of the article. Honestly without the proper nutrition intake steroids aren't crap. Even if you are eating right you may not be eatin enough. Diet is key
    Spot on! There is no way around nutrition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuym View Post
    So I'm going to be picking up my stack this week it will be my first I'm 5 9" 184 I was. Just going to go simple originally

    Test e 500mg a week 12 weeks
    Dbol 30 mg a week 6 week
    .5 adex ed
    Clomid for pct I ordered letro just in case

    Now my source threw me a suggestion of

    300 mg of test and 150 of deca every Monday and Thursday and take 50mg of DBall a day and .5 armidex a day

    Im not sure if I want to do the deca though I wanna keep things simple just wanted to ask your opinion as I trust these boards more than him lol

    Also I was considering front loading the test e at 500 mg first dose then 250 standard afterwards although I am leaning against it to see how the body acts first cycle also I was thinking of using test prop last 2 week s to start pct sooner after last injection your advice falls on open ears so I thank you in advance
    Don't do it mayne I cycled at 21 shut me down hard still suffering from sides. Like muscle ink and baseball suggested you need to eat and train hard do that for a couple years then THINK about cycling.
    Hope this helps

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    Really you'll get more results eating spot on than cycling and eating like shit, real talk! It's just science and body chemistry. Doesn't take a seasoned vet to know that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by base4291ball
    Really you'll get more results eating spot on than cycling and eating like shit, real talk! It's just science and body chemistry. Doesn't take a seasoned vet to know that!
    Not saying you're eating like shit but not eating properly while cycling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by base4291ball

    Not saying you're eating like shit but not eating properly while cycling.
    Valuable advise. Even guys who eat clean often don't consume enough calories to drive growth. It's not just how well you eat but how much and how often!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalodon6 View Post
    Don't do it mayne I cycled at 21 shut me down hard still suffering from sides. Like muscle ink and baseball suggested you need to eat and train hard do that for a couple years then THINK about cycling.
    Hope this helps
    Well as I've been reading about stuff I've decided to get a physical and a hormone panel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuym

    Well as I've been reading about stuff I've decided to get a physical and a hormone panel
    Yeah man see where your test levels are at but I'm sure they're ramped dude. Diet and a good workout program can get you some steady gains a lot of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by base4291ball View Post
    Yeah man see where your test levels are at but I'm sure they're ramped dude. Diet and a good workout program can get you some steady gains a lot of the time.
    Lol they probably ramped are I look like a wookie have since I was 14 but I have the baldness gene from my mother that side of the family is all bald so I keep my head shaved now anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalodon6 View Post
    Don't do it mayne I cycled at 21 shut me down hard still suffering from sides. Like muscle ink and baseball suggested you need to eat and train hard do that for a couple years then THINK about cycling.
    Hope this helps
    Well as I've been reading about stuff I've decided to get a physical and a hormone panel

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