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    Got an idead from an AAS vet at the gym, wanted to run it by you guys, love input

    So for those of you who know my story, I ran a test/deca cycle last winter up until spring, ran a standard pct and ran hcg 250 2x ew while on. My HPTA completely shut down, and even months later my test number were off the charts low. I'm in the middle of running an extensive second PCT in an attempt to restimulate my LH FSH levels. I am about 5 weeks in to my pct #2 and I feel a little better, the low t depression has finally subsided, but my energy is still low and my libido is still non existent.

    Now I talked to a bodybuilder in the gym today and he is in his early 30's and has been cycling for 8 years. I really got in depth with him about my situation, because I feel you can tell within 3 mins of talking to a juicer, whether they know their shit and do their homework, or if they are just some douch who know nothing and sticks drugs in his body without a knowledge of the severe repercussions of irresponsible use. He seemed to know the ins and outs of doing long and short cycles and the pros and cons of the variety of AAS out there, really on the level of some of the vets on this site. He told me he had the same HPTA problem and would never run deca again either, though he said he loved NPP.

    Now here is where I want the feedback. He said since it has now been way more time off than time on since I did my cycle, there is nothing I can do about the neg effects of Deca metabolites being in my system. He said that when that happened to him he said **** it and ran another cycle, and then by the time he actually finished that cycle (minus Deca) he blasted HCG then did a 6 week PCT, and by the end of that the deca was finally out of his system and he recovered completely normally from that cycle. Does that sound like a bad idea, or something that could possibly work. I do understand that I would be further suppressing my HPTA, but if its gonna be stuck anyway until the Deca is all cleared out, why not? Yeah my hpta will be shut down for a long time, but by then, ill just be waiting for short esters to get out of my system which I should in theory recover quickly from. I would use Test prop for 8 weeks. I really just can't deal with this low T problem anymore, it's hurting me in so many areas of my life, so doing something like that seems worth a shot.

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    I don't understand. Are you saying, that he recommended that you run a testosterone cycle, blast hCG after the cycle and then run a PCT?
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    since you're attempting a second pct, why don't you check your bw first before you jump on another cycle?

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    JonnyG. If I were you I would stay the hell away from aas. Learn to eat and train.
    Get your hpta sorted out. It's not worth another round buddy.

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    Man I know it sucks. I would finish the second pct and give time. If that doesn't work TRT might be your only option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
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    JonnyG. If I were you I would stay the hell away from aas. Learn to eat and train.
    Get your hpta sorted out. It's not worth another round buddy.
    I havn't updated my stats in a while, that was my weight at the pinnacle of my diet at a super low body fat, and a year ago. I now average 185lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I don't understand. Are you saying, that he recommended that you run a testosterone cycle, blast hCG after the cycle and then run a PCT?
    yes that is pretty much the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    since you're attempting a second pct, why don't you check your bw first before you jump on another cycle?
    I am actually getting a second round of BW tomorrow, I already had one done in July but that was before I attempted a second PCT, so yes, I am very curious to see if this had any effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donman25 View Post
    Man I know it sucks. I would finish the second pct and give time. If that doesn't work TRT might be your only option.
    Yeah I hear that from a lot of people in on this board. But out in the real world, I have now been asking around to every guy (older guys with years of experience) i can find, for advice. And I have found that many guys say that they had long lasting negative sides from Deca but they did eventually recover. Now, I understand that everybody is different, but at this point I am still of the belief that one 12 week cycle of test/deca done correctly with proper pct did not shut me down to a point that I will never be able to recover from. I could be wrong though, you never know, everybody is different. I just think saying that someone is permanently messed up and that TRT is the ONLY option is a pretty drastic conclusion that I feel to many guys on this board throw around to quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyg419 View Post
    Yeah I hear that from a lot of people in on this board. But out in the real world, I have now been asking around to every guy (older guys with years of experience) i can find, for advice. And I have found that many guys say that they had long lasting negative sides from Deca but they did eventually recover. Now, I understand that everybody is different, but at this point I am still of the belief that one 12 week cycle of test/deca done correctly with proper pct did not shut me down to a point that I will never be able to recover from. I could be wrong though, you never know, everybody is different. I just think saying that someone is permanently messed up and that TRT is the ONLY option is a pretty drastic conclusion that I feel to many guys on this board throw around to quickly.
    Disagree with the above. I don't think that logic is pushed here at all. You are correct in your comments that everyone recovers / responds differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyg419 View Post
    I havn't updated my stats in a while, that was my weight at the pinnacle of my diet at a super low body fat, and a year ago. I now average 185lbs.
    Update your stats man. That is a huge difference. Still with the problem you still have I would stay away. Nice size increase though.

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    Man Its is a risk we all take to get shut down for good and It happens. I hope it didn't happen to you. I would just wait and give it time. Nobody knows how much time. Months or a year???? All I know is your already getting impatient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Update your stats man. That is a huge difference. Still with the problem you still have I would stay away. Nice size increase though.
    Thanks man! and I do see why you would say to stay away from another cycle at the moment, on paper it feels like it makes sense, but part of me knows that it is indeed risky buisness. That's why I'm not really locked and loaded to take such a step, I just wanted to ask around first and see what you guys thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Disagree with the above. I don't think that logic is pushed here at all. You are correct in your comments that everyone recovers / responds differently.
    I hear you, let me rephrase that, I just see certain individuals posting on multiple threads, and give the same "you're ****, and need TRT for life" response to a varied host of situations. That may be the case, but I feel like I see some of the same guys posting that as an answer to an assortment of AAS sides and problems. TRT is a drastic life decision that should not be hastily chosen, unless absolutely necessary, or your on the pro level and getting paid for your physique. I retract my statement that this board offers that advice as a whole. I really just mean that a few on this board always pop up and say that same thing as a copy and paste response, no matter what the individual circumstances may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
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    JonnyG. If I were you I would stay the hell away from aas. Learn to eat and train.
    Get your hpta sorted out. It's not worth another round buddy.
    This is some very good advice.I strongly suggest you follow it.Beacuse you are too light for your size bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyg419 View Post
    I hear you, let me rephrase that, I just see certain individuals posting on multiple threads, and give the same "you're ****, and need TRT for life" response to a varied host of situations. That may be the case, but I feel like I see some of the same guys posting that as an answer to an assortment of AAS sides and problems. TRT is a drastic life decision that should not be hastily chosen, unless absolutely necessary, or your on the pro level and getting paid for your physique. I retract my statement that this board offers that advice as a whole. I really just mean that a few on this board always pop up and say that same thing as a copy and paste response, no matter what the individual circumstances may be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    This is some very good advice.I strongly suggest you follow it.Beacuse you are too light for your size bro.
    Those were old stats from years ago, I responed to CapeBuffalo previously in this thread in regards to my current stats.

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