Test P, Winstrol, Masteron P stack

[aviator850]

I just have a few questions about this stack. I have done 2 cycles of Test and Tren and want to try and switch it up. No more tren.. 27, Bodyfat 9%, 5'7, 175.

Week 1-12: Test P 600mg weekly, Masteron P 600mg weekly,

Week 4-12: Winstrol injectable 50mg ED, Winstrol Oral 50mg ED

I would like to find some proviron and do 50mg ED and aromasin at 25mg ED.

?? I heard of guys doing 12.5mg of aromasin ED, is that sufficient??

??So my question is do you think this is a good cutting cycle? Should I throw in HCG into the mix, if so how much??

????I'm also wondering if this cycle is going to cause erection issues, I keep reading, but find that it can go both ways. Some guys say it kills their erection some guys say it shouldn't and actually makes them solid all the time. ????

If I can find proviron, i'm sure I wont have an issue but I might not be able to find it.

??I have clomids, for PCT. Should I also throw in HCG. I ended up with gyno by using 1000iu a week while cycling before. Could I just lower it to 500iu and see how that works. What's your recommended PCT for this cycle??

[Sub_Zero]

You not going to need an AI with high androgen stack. Proviron is oral version of masteron. And Winny 50/50 every day ? Seriously ? I hope your muscles love suspension cuz if not, boy will you have fun stretching In addition, I hope you're not prone to Baldness, because if you are get some fenasteride.

[Sub_Zero]

Try to keep test lower than other compounds so that they could eliminate bloat and dry you out.

[Xaxist]

1. Mesterolone aka Proviron and Drostanolone proprionate aka Masteron are structurally very similar and DHT derivatives but they are not the same. That being said, running Proviron orally while injecting masteron seems like an identic waste.
2. Injecting and taking Winny oral seems like overkill to me. If you have quality stanozolol to inject, why add it orally too?
3. HCG should be used on cycle not in PCT.

One last note; I wouldn't expect any erection issues on this cycle but am interested in what other members have to say.

[nattydread]

As sub zero mentioned above, these compounds are going to be harsh on your hairline. Also if you are in a relationship you better buy your women some ice packs to cool down her vag cuz you are going to be a walking erection my friend.

[aviator850]

1. Mesterolone aka Proviron and Drostanolone proprionate aka Masteron are structurally very similar and DHT derivatives but they are not the same. That being said, running Proviron orally while injecting masteron seems like an identic waste.
2. Injecting and taking Winny oral seems like overkill to me. If you have quality stanozolol to inject, why add it orally too?
3. HCG should be used on cycle not in PCT.

One last note; I wouldn't expect any erection issues on this cycle but am interested in what other members have to say.

It cant be worse then tren, I was doing 800mg of test p and 400mg of tren a, dried me out, I was a rock. but my erection was diminished. I just want best of both worlds, a lot of guys are happy with the oral and a lot are happy with the depot. So I just decided to do both. Basically I would google masteron and winstrol erection issues and a lot of guys complained that they did have erection issues. I'm sure it varies from person to person. I'd rather have it on hand just in case. I don't have any balding in my family, we'll see what happens with that though. From what I understand HCG should be used before you start PCT. Like they say it's called "Blasting HCG" every heard of it. Go to google and type "standard pct" it will take you to a steriodology website, that's where I got my pct information from. Is it a big deal to do the oral and depot? I plan on getting fish oil for the joint pain, it worked well when I was on test and tren.

[aviator850]

As sub zero mentioned above, these compounds are going to be harsh on your hairline. Also if you are in a relationship you better buy your women some ice packs to cool down her vag cuz you are going to be a walking erection my friend.

Do you think it varies from person to person? Even if I don't get proviron?

[aviator850]

You not going to need an AI with high androgen stack. Proviron is oral version of masteron. And Winny 50/50 every day ? Seriously ? I hope your muscles love suspension cuz if not, boy will you have fun stretching In addition, I hope you're not prone to Baldness, because if you are get some fenasteride.

I read that as well, what i'll do is keep an AI just in case. Rather have it and not need it. Tren really made my joints ache, but fish oil fixed that right up. What's your opinion on erection issues?

[Xaxist]

I am aware of the HCG blasting method (I belong to multiple forums) but that is old school. It's what I was taught, too, many years ago, but I strongly believe that HCG DURING a cycle is the best way to go based on our current understanding and many years of anecdotal evidence.
As far as tren goes, yes, it can cause Erectile Dysfunction (right up there with deca), but I don't see that in your stack. Again, I wouldn't think this would give you libido or ED issues but I am curious as to what other folks on here have to say. If anything the drost or proviron would help but let's let some other folks weigh in.

[aviator850]

I am aware of the HCG blasting method (I belong to multiple forums) but that is old school. It's what I was taught, too, many years ago, but I strongly believe that HCG DURING a cycle is the best way to go based on our current understanding and many years of anecdotal evidence.
As far as tren goes, yes, it can cause Erectile Dysfunction (right up there with deca), but I don't see that in your stack. Again, I wouldn't think this would give you libido or ED issues but I am curious as to what other folks on here have to say. If anything the drost or proviron would help but let's let some other folks weigh in.

Yeah, I know tren and deca will cause ED. The odd thing is, my libido is fine, I just cant get fully up.. You think 500iu of hcg weekly is ok?? 1000iu was way to much, caused gyno.. I appreciate all your input brother.

[Xaxist]

Yeah, I know tren and deca will cause ED. The odd thing is, my libido is fine, I just cant get fully up.. You think 500iu of hcg weekly is ok?? 1000iu was way to much, caused gyno.. I appreciate all your input brother.

I would get some bloodwork done, and find out what is out of whack before I start this cycle. Find out what your doctor thinks is up (or not as the case may be). As far as HCG, 500IU per week is a good starting point (I rarely do much more than that myself). If you are gyno prone, a good AI regimen is a must; personally, I am a big fan of arimidex.

[aviator850]

I would get some bloodwork done, and find out what is out of whack before I start this cycle. Find out what your doctor thinks is up (or not as the case may be). As far as HCG, 500IU per week is a good starting point (I rarely do much more than that myself). If you are gyno prone, a good AI regimen is a must; personally, I am a big fan of arimidex.

Well i'm still on my test and tren cycle. my last cycle was test and tren and I had the same issue. once I cycled off and did pct it was fine. So I'm guessing it will be the same. I did get blood work done before this cycle and everything was normal according to my doc. I'm at the mrs. house right now, I don't have my sheet with me. Once I cycle off, i'll get blood work done again. When I did get gyno, arimidex did the trick. So I do agree with you there. Thanks for the help bro, this forum is way nicer then steriodology. They are dicks..

[Xaxist]

I didn't realize you were still on tren now. Well, that right there will do it; caber is a must for any cycle with tren or deca in it, imho. In any case, you're welcome, and this forum does exhibit a much higher degree of maturity than some of the other forums.

[Euroholic]

Why 12 weeks with the prop? Why not 6-8?

[DAAS]

I just have a few questions about this stack. I have done 2 cycles of Test and Tren and want to try and switch it up. No more tren.. 27, Bodyfat 9%, 5'7, 175.

Week 1-12: Test P 600mg weekly, Masteron P 600mg weekly,

Week 4-12: Winstrol injectable 50mg ED, Winstrol Oral 50mg ED

I would like to find some proviron and do 50mg ED and aromasin at 25mg ED.

?? I heard of guys doing 12.5mg of aromasin ED, is that sufficient??

??So my question is do you think this is a good cutting cycle? Should I throw in HCG into the mix, if so how much??

????I'm also wondering if this cycle is going to cause erection issues, I keep reading, but find that it can go both ways. Some guys say it kills their erection some guys say it shouldn't and actually makes them solid all the time. ????

If I can find proviron, i'm sure I wont have an issue but I might not be able to find it.

??I have clomids, for PCT. Should I also throw in HCG. I ended up with gyno by using 1000iu a week while cycling before. Could I just lower it to 500iu and see how that works. What's your recommended PCT for this cycle??

Im not seeing the point of running Winny, mast, and proviron at the same time. basically all similar drugs. Pick one.

[aviator850]

Im not seeing the point of running Winny, mast, and proviron at the same time. basically all similar. Pick one.

why not run it all. running winny and masteron is a known cycle.?? only reason why I want proviron is because I have heard mixed reviews with ED on winny and masteron.

[aviator850]

Why 12 weeks with the prop? Why not 6-8?

I've ran an 8 week cycle of test p and tren a. I prefer 12 weeks, I get more out of it.

[Sub_Zero]

I read that as well, what i'll do is keep an AI just in case. Rather have it and not need it. Tren really made my joints ache, but fish oil fixed that right up. What's your opinion on erection issues?

You will have them like it or not. What you could do us cut test 50% and add additional Deca for joints ant to counteract erection issues ? Or why not add Letro every 3 days ? As far as I know it will defo slow your sex drive + it will completely fry your estrogen, but since your set on drying yourself out that shouldn't be a problem, right ?
Remember that androgens will suck water out of your body leaving you grainy and shredded so cutting test in half is advisable as it will hold water.
There are so many way to cutting and seems to me that your going a bit drastic here. Surely you will look like someone who's about to step on a stage if you execute it appropriately.

[Sub_Zero]

why not run it all. running winny and masteron is a known cycle.?? only reason why I want proviron is because I have heard mixed reviews with ED on winny and masteron.

"Why not run it all" this quote is just begging for me to ask about your injection sites and rotation

[redz]

Or why not add Letro every 3 days ?

Letro is overkill for any cycle. It will crush estrogen and inhibit gains.

[redz]

You will have them like it or not. What you could do us cut test 50% and add additional Deca for joints ant to counteract erection issues ? Or why not add Letro every 3 days ? As far as I know it will defo slow your sex drive + it will completely fry your estrogen, but since your set on drying yourself out that shouldn't be a problem, right ?
Remember that androgens will suck water out of your body leaving you grainy and shredded so cutting test in half is advisable as it will hold water.
There are so many way to cutting and seems to me that your going a bit drastic here. Surely you will look like someone who's about to step on a stage if you execute it appropriately.

This is one of the dumbest posts I've seen in a while how can you say any of this when you've never even used steroids. Your information is all wrong.

[aviator850]

"Why not run it all" this quote is just begging for me to ask about your injection sites and rotation

The injection really doesn't seem that complicated.. shoulders, glutes, quads.. hell,, really anywhere there is muscle I can inject. I injected 27 times in a month my last cycle. rotation wasn't an issue... reason why i injected that much was because i didn't feel comfortable about mixing my test and tren, found out it wasn't a bad thing, so this cycle i decided to mix it.

??Is winny, masteron, and test p not a known cycle?? I'm pretty sure it is..

for my joints, i just take fish oil. I haven't had an issue while on tren..

I'm pretty sure deca would just kill my sex drive..

well i got proviron, my only concern was my erection.. I'm sure i wont have any issues now. I'll take before and after pictures up when i finish. It'll be a while though, i have a few more weeks on my current test and tren cycle, then i'll cycle off for a bit.

[aviator850]

Thanks everyone for all the information! Xaxist your the man bratha. If I feel that the winstrol oral is overkill, i'll drop it. Hopefully my libido and erection aren't an issue, my women would be pissed. Thanks again bro's.