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    Help with cutting/fat loss? What to use HGH, HCG, Peptides, ECA, Clen, etc.

    I am looking for opinions, suggestions on what I should use or stack to boost/speed up my fat loss.

    Currently I take T3 daily for low thyroid condition. I have an adderall script but dont take it regularly.

    As for supplements I take creatine, CLA and a test booster and a preworkout spiked with Beta-alinine and of course protein.

    I am 34
    Body fat 23% measured by Dexa scan at 265lbs
    243 lbs as of today
    6'4"

    As far as diet I am consuming 1750-2000 clean calories a day of a high protein low carb diet. I try to stay paleo as best as I can but I still allow my self some whole grains from time to time.

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    Can you type us up a quick daily diet as to what those calories are coming from, be as accurate as possible if you can

    also how fast are you loosing currently?



    Quote Originally Posted by BIGO181979 View Post
    I am looking for opinions, suggestions on what I should use or stack to boost/speed up my fat loss.

    Currently I take T3 daily for low thyroid condition. I have an adderall script but dont take it regularly.

    As for supplements I take creatine, CLA and a test booster and a preworkout spiked with Beta-alinine and of course protein.

    I am 34
    Body fat 23% measured by Dexa scan at 265lbs
    243 lbs as of today
    6'4"

    As far as diet I am consuming 1750-2000 clean calories a day of a high protein low carb diet. I try to stay paleo as best as I can but I still allow my self some whole grains from time to time.

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    Typical day's diet

    Breakfast:
    protein shake (2 scoops) and banana
    or
    2 eggs over medium and a sausage patty or piece or two of bacon

    Lunch:
    Leftovers from dinner from the night before

    Dinner:
    I smoke a lot of meat so its either pulled pork, brisket, or salmon.
    Then some days I have grilled chicken breast or a flat iron steak or if i'm being lazy some ground beef in the form of meat loaf, hamburger, or mexican beef.
    I will include a veggie of some kind such as pan fried plantains (in coconut oil), baked sweet potatots, roasted brussel sprouts, asparugus etc.

    I will use low carb soft taco shells or paleo bred to make wraps or sandwiches from time to time.

    I usually try to add a protein shake somewhere in the day and some beef jerky or a banana as a snack as well. Also depending on my calorie count for the day I might make a fruit smoothie for a desert/treat but thats only maybe once in a couple weeks since fruits are so high in sugars.

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    I found clen to be harsh (lots of cramps and you can feel your heart almost bounce of your ribcage). Eca stack was ok but the crash can be tough and I like it better as a pre-workout supp more then using it for weight loss. Hgh and t4 is tough to beat but it takes a while to see results (3-6 months). It would be wise to try and really dial in your diet as much as possible and lose as much fat as possible before using any of the above mentioned. When you have hit a plateau, these are great tools to help you out but should be used at that point.

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    Honestly I think you could benifit from just makeing a few small changes in your meal plan.

    just off the top of my head with out detailed adding i can see protein carbs and fats pretty easy from doing this alot

    protein
    2 soups pro maybe 25grams each = eggs maybe another 10
    lunch maybe 30( kinda hard to tell
    dinner maybe 30
    and you say you may sneak another shake 25 in ? thats 120 grams protein or 480 cals

    carbs i see
    banana and a potatoe and maybe some veges maybe a taco shell.. really i cant see more than 150 grams anywhere and lots of those are simple carbs like you fruit... so maybe 600 cals

    this means your bacon and sauagage and meat loaf make up the rest of the cals ( kinda high IMO)

    most your protein is in the AM no need for 60 grams in meal 1 and none the rest of the day..

    here is some simple rules.

    more meals..

    break up your macros ( read the stickies to see what i mean)

    keep a more constant diet so you know how and when to adjust.. meals without counting anything or guessing is not going to help you move in a direction.

    Sorry i didnt add it all up or 100% accurate but just giving you an idea.

    pick a macro and make a diet. maybe use a standard 40/40/ 20 or even a 50/30/20 and throw in some cardio and youll drop fast as long as you under your maintenance cals.


    Quote Originally Posted by BIGO181979 View Post
    Typical day's diet

    Breakfast:
    protein shake (2 scoops) and banana
    or
    2 eggs over medium and a sausage patty or piece or two of bacon

    Lunch:
    Leftovers from dinner from the night before

    Dinner:
    I smoke a lot of meat so its either pulled pork, brisket, or salmon.
    Then some days I have grilled chicken breast or a flat iron steak or if i'm being lazy some ground beef in the form of meat loaf, hamburger, or mexican beef.
    I will include a veggie of some kind such as pan fried plantains (in coconut oil), baked sweet potatots, roasted brussel sprouts, asparugus etc.

    I will use low carb soft taco shells or paleo bred to make wraps or sandwiches from time to time.

    I usually try to add a protein shake somewhere in the day and some beef jerky or a banana as a snack as well. Also depending on my calorie count for the day I might make a fruit smoothie for a desert/treat but thats only maybe once in a couple weeks since fruits are so high in sugars.

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    I think maybe you read the breakfast part wrong I either have eggs with a sausage patty OR 2 pieces of bacon, OR if I am in a hurry I just have a protein shake and a banana.

    As for cardio I do crossfit 2-3 times a week, I can't not bring my self to run or do traditional cardio work. In addition to cossfit I do strength training 3-4 days a week.

    Thanks for the diet tips, I will have to look more into the macro counting as honestly I have never done it. I currently am only focusing on maintaing a caloric deficit and try to maintain a low carb intake so it sounds like if I get a bit more detailed about my diet, it sounds like I can maybe increase my fat loss rate. I have always had problems with the 5-6 meals a day thing though. I just can't seem to find the time to do it....

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