First tren cycle...

[Infidel101]

Gearing up for my first tren cycle in December. Just looking to bounce it off those with experience and see if anything needs tweaked.

Week 1-9 - Test Prop 150 mg week
Week 1-8 - Tren Ace 250 mg week (ramping to 350/wk depending on sides)
Week 3-9 - Winstrol 50 mg ED

Aromasin @ 25 MG/ED and Caber @ 1 mg/wk (dosed .5 x2 week)

PCT will be Nolva and Torem. Starting HCG during final week of Prop and into wait time before starting PCT.

Any suggestions on changing/adding?

And since I'm sure it'll be asked...

4th Cycle
30 YO
6'3 241 @ 12% BF

[Lunk1]

Start HCG at the beginning and stop upon last pin.

I would not piss around with 250 and ramping. It's a short ester so just pick the dose and if sides are intolerable...stop!

[Infidel101]

Start with 350 or 250?

Have seen the suggestion of running HCG throughout the cycle but don't see the point. If you're shutdown, why take HCG to try to restart if you're only going to continue to take test and shutdown further? Doesn't it make sense to bring your boys back online when you're actually trying to jumpstart them again?

[Lunk1]

HCG through cycle will make recovery easier. Give Austinites thread on HCG use a read. I will link it for you.

I would go straight to 100mg EOD. That's 350mg EW!

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

Your stats are insane bro.

You could probably get away with a higher dosage of Tren. Your Aromasin dosage is a little overkill. Is there a reason you want to run your Test that low?

[Infidel101]

There was a thread made here with a bunch of different studies done on Aromasin and showing the commonly recommended dosages were painfully underdosed. Long story short, multiple studies found 25 mg ED to be ideal dose.

Aromsasin dosage thread

From the research I've done, TRT dosage of test and higher dosage of Tren seems to help limit sides. Test is to help with libido and normal body function and the tren does the rest of the work. I'm certainly open to suggestions.

At 6'3, 241 isn't really that impressive... Hoping to drop the BF to around 10% and maintain 240 ish with this cycle. I'll start with the 100 mg EOD/ 350 per week. Haven't ever had sides from any of the compounds I've run so, fingers crossed.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

I personally think your Aromasin dosages are high for the low dosages of gear you are running.

I don't want to step on any toes so I would say go for the TRT dose with your Tren and see how it works for you.

I highly doubt you will run into any sides with dosages like that.

[Black]

I ran a similar cycle for my first go around with Tren, except I had low dose NPP instead of winny. I agree with JB. Since you are injecting small doses ED or EOD, you shouldn't have much of a spike in estrogen. My TRT dose is 40mg Test Prop EOD and I don't use an AI (estrogen sits at 10-15 [0-70 range]). I know everyone is different, but 25mg Aromasin ED is a big AI dose based on your dosages.

[Infidel101]

I'll start it at 12.5 and see what bloods say at the 4 week mark.