Gains on Nandrolone Phenylpropionate

[corkay128]

I was wondering what are gains like on deca with the phenylpropionate ester, I heard they were very dry as compared to regular deca

[clarky.]

If you have a good diet and train good the end results will be great npp is a great compound love the stuff.

[Bert]

I still put on a little water with npp.

[johnnymctrance]

What would u say tren ace vs NPP???

[corkay128]

how much bloat would i experience with about 400mg of npp a week? I wanted to use it rather than equipoise for a knee injury, I also have some anavar I was going to throw in at about 50mg or so a day

My hope was to inject 100mg of test e, and 200mg of npp every 5 days? I know thats alright for test e, but is that too ok to inject 200mg of npp every 5days with 100mg of test e

my goal is not to bloat and I really dont like alot of test in my cycles I just wanna stay up and running

any input would be great thanks again!

[powerliftmike]

What would u say tren ace vs NPP???

In terms of water retention as referenced in the original question? Tren a wont hold any water. NPP will.

[corkay128]

how much water retention with npp?

[powerliftmike]

My hope was to inject 100mg of test e, and 200mg of npp every 5 days? I know thats alright for test e, but is that too ok to inject 200mg of npp every 5days with 100mg of test e

my goal is not to bloat and I really dont like alot of test in my cycles I just wanna stay up and running

What are your goals again? I get you may want to run low dose deca for your knee, but Im a little confused why then want to run a nearly meaningless amount of test with anavar "throw in"? Also confused how you are going to run 400mg NPP per week, yet 200mg every 5 days. The math doesnt work. How many weeks too?

[corkay128]

and can NPP be injected every 4 or 5 days?

[MuscleInk]

and can NPP be injected every 4 or 5 days?

Is it a short or long ester? That's the key to your question and answer.

[corkay128]

I was thinking 8-12 weeks on NPP,and anavar, I really only wanted to run a trt dose of test

I figured the anavar will help with collagen synthesis for my knee, and I would like to maintain my mass I have now and recomp tighted and harden up

[austinite]

I never ran NPP longer than 10 weeks, and I always ran it every 3rd day.

[MuscleInk]

I never ran NPP longer than 10 weeks, and I always ran it every 3rd day.

EOD for me. Max 600mg/wk for 8 wks.

[corkay128]

what are the gains like, beefy? or lean and tight? and are the gains maintainable? like quality muscle?

[austinite]

what are the gains like, beefy? or lean and tight? and are the gains maintainable? like quality muscle?

lol corkay! What does quality muscle mean??

[MuscleInk]

what are the gains like, beefy? or lean and tight? and are the gains maintainable? like quality muscle?

Diet, diet, DIET. Nutrition is everything. Gear is the icing on the cake, so to speak.

You can shoot as much of whatever you choose. If you aren't eating enough, growth won't happen and any "quality muscle" (what is that and what is the opposite?????) will NOT stay. Most novices make this mistake continually and learn the hard way that there is absolutely no substitute to nutrition.

[corkay128]

I mean in the sense that the phenylpropionate ester is shorter than the decanoate ester am I going to see gains that are maintainable with NPP after cycle? or would I only have that benefit with ND?

[MuscleInk]

I mean in the sense that the phenylpropionate ester is shorter than the decanoate ester am I going to see gains that are maintainable with NPP after cycle? or would I only have that benefit with ND?

Your diet will determine that. No lie. Both will result in some water retention which can dissipate off cycle but Corkay, you will find out the hard way that if you eat less than your TDEE you will watch your gains disappear.

[marcus300]

I mean in the sense that the phenylpropionate ester is shorter than the decanoate ester am I going to see gains that are maintainable with NPP after cycle? or would I only have that benefit with ND?

No one knows how you will react
It's a short ester deca and for me it's a great compound just like long ester deca.

Diet and training are the key principles of gains

[austinite]

Agreed. Nandrolone is great, regardless of the ester.

[Stosh_112]

Since NPP has a prop ester should'nt it be ran EOD???

[tdoe11]

Since NPP has a prop ester should'nt it be ran EOD???

It's a "phenyl" propinate ester. A longer ester than propinate but not as long as cypionate or enanthate. It is said to have a half life or 4/5 days but typically injected every 3 or 4 days.

[clarky.]

I pin it eod as well with ma prop.

[Ashop]

I was wondering what are gains like on deca with the phenylpropionate ester, I heard they were very dry as compared to regular deca

Its very similar to DECA just faster acting. NPP and TEST PROP make a nice stack.