First cycle, please critique

[jerm896]

Hey guys, I have been a lurker on these forums for a while. I know there are many knowledgable gurus here, and would like a quick critique, or if I should tweak anything with my first cycle.

STATS
Age: A few months shy of 22 (I know, its ideal to wait, but this is my last year to do something like this and maybe try a physique contest before I'm committed to a minimum 8 years of studying medicine)
Weight: 186-188lbs (fluctuates)
Height: 5'11
Body fat: 10%
Lifting experience: 6 years
Blood work all came out clean.
Total natty test 25.8nmol/L (7.1-31 reference range)
I'm highly disciplined, I eat clean, I know how to train, I was 120lbs of lank when I started lifting.

CYCLE
Test E 500mg/week for 10 weeks
Adex 0.5mg EOD until first day of PCT
PCT 2 weeks after last poke, 100/75/50/25 Clomid + 40/30/20/10 Nolva

Everything is already on hand, I'm currently a day in week 2.

Questions I have: I'm aware I may get a discomfort in my testicles, and they are more than likely going to shrink. Given the PCT I have, is HcG worth investing in? Or will what I have bring the boys back to their glory afterwards.

Cheers guys thanks for your input.

[jerm896]

Anyone?

[jdpeters]

From what I have read from the guru's on here is you should always run hcg. I'm sure everyone varies but better to be safe.

JP

[jerm896]

Cheers man
How's the dosing go for that?

[bass]

you're too young to cycle, wait until you are done developing otherwise you'll screw yourself up. read the following,

The Young and Steroids

this is what you need to do until you're 25

So you wanna learn how to Diet?

Austinite's Fat Loss Protocol using Over the Counter Products.

you will need this if you ignore the advice,

Finding a TRT Physician

its up to you.

[jdpeters]

Just like Bass said, your too young, but since you already started and probably won't stop its 250 iu's twice a week. Read all the stickies to become more educated. All this stuff is in there.

[AlphaMike]

HCG is highly recommended and well worth it, cycle layout is good. Know the risks and what you're getting into.

[jerm896]

Thanks guys. Yeah I know and understand the risks. We'll see I may get out of it early at week 5.

[bass]

get out of it now.

[jerm896]

So just start the standard pct?

[base4291ball]

Why start a cycle if you're going to take 8 years off? Wait 8 years...

[jerm896]

I guess. Bass, let's say I decide to take your advice and get off now. Do I wait two weeks since my second poke? And start clomid/nolva then

[Reiid13]

Better to have stuff like HCG on hand incase mate , doesnt hurt to be well prepared , im supprised tbh with a 8 year medicine commitment youd run a random cycle , seems a little pointless IMO since you'll be very tied down with studies .
Experience is wisdom , good luck mate.

[AlphaMike]

I guess. Bass, let's say I decide to take your advice and get off now. Do I wait two weeks since my second poke? And start clomid/nolva then

PCT not necessary so early into the cycle

[jerm896]

Thanks Reiid13, I may take Bass' advice actually if he tells me how to get off. I was still gonna work out natty on it but I don't know maybe I acted to hastly. May just get off.

[bass]

I think you'll be fine if you just stop cold turkey, your body will try to restart in few weeks on its own. 6-8 weeks do BW to make sure you're getting back to normal. did you do BW prior to cycling?

[jerm896]

Yes I did Bass. And would it hurt to be extra safe and give it a kickstart with the nolva atleast anyways?

[bass]

I don't think you need it, but will let Jimmy confirm that. i'll PM him so he can respond to you. smart move BTW, you'll be fine.

[jerm896]

Sounds ridiculous but where will I receive said PM, on this site? or in my email?

[bass]

I just PMed him, he'll respond here in your thread.

[jerm896]

Thank's man. Appreciate it.

[Lunk1]

So you have pinned 3X? If I am reading that right, no need to PCT at this point...just stop.

[jerm896]

Pinned twice

[jerm896]

And you think I'll just recover fine and dandy without PCT? Would using a PCT cause damage or be extra safe?

[jerm896]

I should add both pins were 500mg total

[jerm896]

Anyhow Jimmy when you get Bass' pm please post, could really use your support. I was reading in a similar situation some vets (on another forum) recommended nolva at 20/20/10/10

[bass]

Lunk is an expert as well, you can take his advise. abort your cycle and you'll be fine.

[jerm896]

I repped him too. You guys are all great. I guess i'd just like to hear the same opinion twice? Just would make me feel more comfortable

[Bio-Active]

Honestly these guys are right on. You haven't been suppressed very long. You could get by with no pct and just come off. If you are concerned at all nolva only at 20/10/10/10 would be plenty for a small pct

[jerm896]

Thank you

[jerm896]

One more thing jim, would i wait until 2 weeks AFTER last injection to run the baby pct? And would I still take the AI up until then? Cheers

[Bio-Active]

10-12 days after last pin will be fine as your exogenous t levels will have dropped significantly by then and if you are using an AI yes drop it right before you start pct. How much AI are you running?

[jerm896]

0.5mg Adex EOD currently

[jerm896]

And only use 20/10/10/10 of nolva yes? no more?

[bass]

And only use 20/10/10/10 of nolva yes? no more?

Jerm, don't overthink it. 12 days from your last shot start taking 20 mgs each day for the first week, then 10 mgs each day for the remaining three weeks.

[jerm896]

okay will do. Will report back in 6 weeks.

[Bio-Active]

Jerm, don't overthink it. 12 days from your last shot start taking 20 mgs each day for the first week, then 10 mgs each day for the remaining three weeks.

^^^ yes this

[jerm896]

You've all been repped. Thanks again. Hopefully I'll make a quick and hasty recovery

[Mp859]

Rep me bro.

[>Good Luck<]

I must say this was as flawless of a negotation as possible. Best I've seen yet and perfectly received by a bright individual capable of making good decisions. Well done bass and jim! You guys are good men.

Good luck *tips hat*