Electricians

[marcus300]

I'm putting under floor heating into a property i have in the bathroom. Can I wire this straight into a 13amp plug socket or does it need a direct link to the fuse box

[capetown]

Im by far no electrician but I would run any infloor heating to a box on its on breaker.

[Times Roman]

marcus

check with lovbyts. he just put in heated flooring, so he may be able to give you some insight

---Roman

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You will need a direct line from the panel and its best to be protected by gfci

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[ac guy]

^^what he said. Just do the whole place with hydronic heat.

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^^what he said. Just do the whole place with hydronic heat.

Geothermal is best but very expensive install. I was part of the first wal-mart in canada with geothermal heating being built and they were talking about saving millions over the lifespan of the store. The idea of heated floors in residential situations is great because heat rises and cost of heating will drastically reduce....so long as you dont leave it on all the time. Its best (imo) to incorporate the in-floor heating with an automation system or something controlled remotely. Because im only mid-lower class I would only use it in a bathroom. If I had the doe-rae-mee id use it EVERYWHERE! !

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[ac guy]

Sounds like we have similar careers.

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Sounds like we have similar careers.

Sounds like it. Im an electrician doing industrial,commercial, institutional and residential construction

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[Lunk1]

I have done this in my bathroom. It depends on the square footage of the run and the type of heating system you are using. If you are using the wire type system that goes directly under the tile then it can be wired to any outlet because the amp requirement is so low.

[lovbyts]

You will need a direct line from the panel and its best to be protected by gfci

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Yup its supposed to be a dedicated line to a gfi in the same room. 20 amp I believe.

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I have done this in my bathroom. It depends on the square footage of the run and the type of heating system you are using. If you are using the wire type system that goes directly under the tile then it can be wired to any outlet because the amp requirement is so low.

In theory anything can be run from a plug but in order to be properly protected and the keep the existing circuit from flickering and dimming its advisable to seperate. Also, grout and thinset are pourous and water can penetrate. Water and electricity make dangerous situations so the gfci protection is prudent for life safety. Especially when dealing with fuses because the intended fault currents can be changed by instaling higher amperage fuses. Ie the 15a keeps tripping so ill put a 20 or 30a. Very dangerous.

Aside from that, im only aware of my local electrical code, and it is required where I live. Canada

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[marcus300]

I have done this in my bathroom. It depends on the square footage of the run and the type of heating system you are using. If you are using the wire type system that goes directly under the tile then it can be wired to any outlet because the amp requirement is so low.

Its only a small area and its the wire type system fitted to the underside of the tiles

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Yup its supposed to be a dedicated line to a gfi in the same room. 20 amp I believe.

Amperage depends of sqaure footage and wattage of product per square foot.

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[marcus300]

It looks like its 165w/m2.

[Lunk1]

Its only a small area and its the wire type system fitted to the underside of the tiles

Exactly what we used it sounds like. It has a separate thermostat control. We ran the wire, thin set over top. We ran conduit from the thermostat to the base board where we ran the wire up. We powered through a light switch actually. It works wonderful and does not cause any flickering or lighting surge issues. I think we covered maybe less than 50 sq ft.

[marcus300]

Exactly what we used it sounds like. It has a separate thermostat control. We ran the wire, thin set over top. We ran conduit from the thermostat to the base board where we ran the wire up. We powered through a light switch actually. It works wonderful and does not cause any flickering or lighting surge issues. I think we covered maybe less than 50 sq ft.

Ahh great Lunk, so you took the supply from a light switch and added a thermostat

[Lunk1]

Ahh great Lunk, so you took the supply from a light switch and added a thermostat

Exactly. We mounted the thermostat next to the switch and ran power from it to the thermostat. We removed drywall from the bottom half since it had old tile on it. This gave us the chance to run conduit from the thermostat to the bottom of the wall so we pulled the leads through the conduit after we laid the wire and the tile.

[Lunk1]

I called a tile supply warehouse and gave them the measurements of the room. They had the wire already cut to length and provided everything I needed. We used 2 metal strips with out facing teeth to run the wire back and forth from side to side. It was a straight run so quite easy.

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Whats the normal voltage where u live?

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[Lunk1]

Whats the normal voltage where u live?

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Not sure if your asking Marcus or me GL but in the US it's all 110V so I'm not sure if anything I'm saying will apply over the pond.

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Not sure if your asking Marcus or me GL but in the US it's all 110V

Was asking marcus. The US is same as canada basically. I thought marcus may be in the uk and might have 220

For us it would equate to 1.375amps per m2

If the voltage is different it would be less. Either way it will work but imo its always better to do it right, and the wayn you did it is wrong- The true 'murican way lol

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[Lunk1]

Was asking marcus. The US is same as canada basically. I thought marcus may be in the uk and might have 220

For us it would equate to 1.375amps per m2

If the voltage is different it would be less. Either way it will work but imo its always better to do it right, and the wayn you did it is wrong- The true 'murican way lol

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I understand the water and electricity issue but as far as tying into an outlet or the switch, whats the difference between that or running outlets in series?

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I understand the water and electricity issue but as far as tying into an outlet or the switch, whats the difference between that or running outlets in series?

They are actually series parallel but I wouldnt expect you to understand unless you were an electrician like me. Like I said, it will work but its not right. Just like plugging in 10 splitters into the same circuit. They have something called a demand factor. Just because the right voltage is there, doesnt mean the circuit can handle the load. And just because it appears to be handling the load, doesnt mean your wires wont melt behind the walls. The circuit from the panel is to protect persons and property. Just like steroids, theres a right way to go about it, and a wrong way too!

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[bass]

It looks like its 165w/m2.

160 wats?! heck all you need is a 9 volt battery

[Lunk1]

Just had to do some reading. The thermostat comes with built in GFCI and manufacture recommends wiring to circuit box unless it's a small run then they say just tie into an outlet.

[marcus300]

Was asking marcus. The US is same as canada basically. I thought marcus may be in the uk and might have 220

For us it would equate to 1.375amps per m2

If the voltage is different it would be less. Either way it will work but imo its always better to do it right, and the wayn you did it is wrong- The true 'murican way lol

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Its 240v

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Its 240v

Right, 240! A beautiful system. Draws significantly less current per watt than us americans (canada is in north america, believen it or not lol)

Well it's up to you what you decide but my experience tells me to run a new circuit from the box. If it were my house I would. Im sure if you read the literature it will say what lunk said followed by "check with your local electrical authority for applicable codes. Always use a licensed electrician for installation" or something to that effect

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[marcus300]

Thank you very much guy's
Some things to think about

[Flagg]

Hey Marcus, my bro in law is a lecky and my Dad is pretty switched on, no pun, bout this stuff.

Looks like the lads here have pointed you in the right direction but il ask em tmo bout what you're best bet might be.

[marcus300]

Thanks Flagg