Advice on a situation

[DAAS]

So I am a home brewer and have a few cycles I kept stored away, as well as raw Serms and AI.
Here is my situation. My brother lives with me currently, and he likes other illicit substances.
Its never been a problem, until now. He has a part time job with such materials and lately I feel he is being very careless and stupid.

I am worried that perhaps my place of living might be searched, thus he would get me busted.

What would you do? I don't have any friends who I could give my gear to to store. I am tempted to just throw it away, because even though it is worth a lot it didn't cost me a arm and a leg.

Should I just toss it and learn from this experience. aka dont live with anyone

[Lunk1]

"part time job with such materials"????

Sounds like you have 2 choices. Him or the gear. if you think there is even a remote chance he could cause a search of your place then one of them has to go.

The other option as I'm thinking about it might be a safe deposit box or rented storage.

[Times Roman]

who do you love more....

....your gear or your brother?

another question from a different POV....

why don't you ask him to not keep his illicit substances in the house? (does he pay you rent and therefore have certain implied rights?)

if it's really an issue, he can keep his stuff outside in a common area, hidden away. maybe behind the BBQ or somewhere else close by where he can use/smoke it.

there's a solution here. just need to be creative

[Euroholic]

The old saying rings true never mix buissness with pleasure. Do you want to keep home brewing or not? Answer this question than you no what you will have to do

[Igifuno]

I love my brother, but if he was being reckless like that, I'd kick his ass out of my house.. real fast.

[DAAS]

who do you love more....

....your gear or your brother?

another question from a different POV....

why don't you ask him to not keep his illicit substances in the house? (does he pay you rent and therefore have certain implied rights?)

if it's really an issue, he can keep his stuff outside in a common area, hidden away. maybe behind the BBQ or somewhere else close by where he can use/smoke it.

there's a solution here. just need to be creative

Well it doesn't matter where he actually keeps it. if he ****s up and gets the house searched then they will look everywhere just because they can. I think my only two options are either dump the gear or find a really good place to hide it. They don't put off any smells that a dog could be trained to recognize do they?

He has many issues and i him leaving the house isn't an option at the moment. Just a burden. Our family has tried to help him to the best of our ability but he always ends up doing the same thing.

[Euroholic]

I love my brother, but if he was being reckless like that, I'd kick his ass out of my house.. real fast.

Just like on godfather part 2 were Michael has frado killed.

[DAAS]

The old saying rings true never mix buissness with pleasure. Do you want to keep home brewing or not? Answer this question than you no what you will have to do

Its not a business. its not a source of my income. its just worth a good deal and a pain to get new raws when I want to make more. Not something I want to throw away if there is another option

[Lunk1]

No..narc dogs cant smell AAS. That doesn't mean it cant be found. Ive seen furniture cut to shreds, cars torn down to nuts and bolts, drywall torn down and so on. Not worth the risk!!!!!

[Euroholic]

Its not a business. its not a source of my income. its just worth a good deal and a pain to get new raws when I want to make more. Not something I want to throw away if there is another option

Well mate your brother needs to respect you and your property. Tell him how you feel and you want him to pull his head in. Don't allow others to change your
Lifestyle because of there selfless actions.

Or you could rent a house or storage shed for your operations. Pay in cash off the books

[DAAS]

Well mate your brother needs to respect you and your property. Tell him how you feel and you want him to pull his head in. Don't allow others to change your
Lifestyle because of there selfless actions.

Or you could rent a house or storage shed for your operations. Pay in cash off the books

My job situation isn't great right now. We share rent. Its not like he is living here for free. the lease is up soon but its far enough away that Im still nervous

[Igifuno]

Will he not listen to you if you outright tell him it needs to go?

[Euroholic]

My job situation isn't great right now. We share rent. Its not like he is living here for free. the lease is up soon but its far enough away that Im still nervous

Well your in a sticky situation mate ive had my house searched before and had to go to court it sucks. You need to hide what you have or dispose of it.

[gixxerboy1]

dont know how much stuff you have but how about renting a small storage place or a safety deposit box?

[DAAS]

dont know how much stuff you have but how about renting a small storage place or a safety deposit box?

Ill probably just dump it. 12 vials or prop, 5 eth, 4 grams dbol, and quite a bit of serm. total cost to me is not that much. Once my lease is up ill be out on my own.

[DAAS]

Will he not listen to you if you outright tell him it needs to go?

Its not really my place. we share rent equally and i have my stuff he has his. Just because I think he is being a dip shit isnt reason enough to him that he needs to change his ways. Not worth a physical altercation when Ill just be moving in a few months. But also not worth me getting busted over x amount of home brew

[DAAS]

dont know how much stuff you have but how about renting a small storage place or a safety deposit box?

how much does a box run? and would it be easy enough or safe to hold it there?

[Lunk1]

how much does a box run? and would it be easy enough or safe to hold it there?

Check with your local bank. Some provide them very cheap or even free. There should be NO reason for LE to search your safe deposit box if your brother gets popped for rec. drugs.

[Times Roman]

dont know how much stuff you have but how about renting a small storage place or a safety deposit box?

good idea, except it creates another problem with transporting it back and forth in a vehicle.......

[DAAS]

Check with your local bank. Some provide them very cheap or even free. There should be NO reason for LE to search your safe deposit box if your brother gets popped for rec. drugs.

how to i get it in there? just in a brown bag?

[Hazard]

Check with your local bank. Some provide them very cheap or even free. There should be NO reason for LE to search your safe deposit box if your brother gets popped for rec. drugs.

Really? They wouldn't look into a relative thats LIVING with him at all? I mean..... If they did they'd hit the jackpot lmfao!

good idea, except it creates another problem with transporting it back and forth in a vehicle.......

Very true..... But I'd be more inclined to make a short drive with one bottle in my trunk when I'm sober than to keep it in a house like that.

how to i get it in there? just in a brown bag?

I'd bring it over a couple days in loose pockets probably but then again I don't think they can ask you what you are depositing so even if it was in a velvet bag, brown bag, plastic bag, or a backpack (or book bag to keep with the theme lol) you should be fine.

[Euroholic]

A sack with a dollar sign always does the trick

[DAAS]

Really? They wouldn't look into a relative thats LIVING with him at all? I mean..... If they did they'd hit the jackpot lmfao!



Very true..... But I'd be more inclined to make a short drive with one bottle in my trunk when I'm sober than to keep it in a house like that.


I'd bring it over a couple days in loose pockets probably but then again I don't think they can ask you what you are depositing so even if it was in a velvet bag, brown bag, plastic bag, or a backpack (or book bag to keep with the theme lol) you should be fine.

I actually have some velvet bags that I received some "rare" coins in. Maybe thatll do the trick. put some cotten balls in there so the vials dont clink together

[Lunk1]

@Haz. They would have to have probable cause to believe that the two were connected, they then would also have to have probable cause to link the crime to the safe deposit box IF they knew t existed. That's quite a stretch.

I would get the box first and put something stupid in it just to see what the banks process was. Many ppl put documents, passports, cash or whatever in them.

[DAAS]

Im just going to approach a dude at the gym I know take gear. hell take em for free

[Lunk1]

Im just going to approach a dude at the gym I know take gear. hell take em for free

Free...wait a minute, you didn't say you were giving them away. PM sent (just kidding, no PM sent) lol

[Hazard]

@Haz. They would have to have probable cause to believe that the two were connected, they then would also have to have probable cause to link the crime to the safe deposit box IF they knew t existed. That's quite a stretch.

I would get the box first and put something stupid in it just to see what the banks process was. Many ppl put documents, passports, cash or whatever in them.

Cool good to know

[DAAS]

Free...wait a minute, you didn't say you were giving them away. PM sent (just kidding, no PM sent) lol

ehhh it was late and I just wanted to give up. lol. idk what ill do. but I did just brew a small batch. just for good old time sake. so much fun!!

[JD250]

I wouldn't live with a drug dealer... period! This aint rocket science, bad things are headed your way!!

[thegodfather]

What country are you in? Generally, a search warrant for a specific person at a specific residence, have to be named in the warrant, hence the "specific people to be searched, and the specific things to be seized." Searching your living quarters, while it may happen in the field, would be able to be challenged in court, especially if you two had separate leases on the same apartment. I would expect any evidence to be covered under the exclusionary rule, if your living quarters were searched while the warrant specified the warrant was for the search of his residence, and for items X,Y, and Z.

[austinite]

What country are you in? Generally, a search warrant for a specific person at a specific residence, have to be named in the warrant, hence the "specific people to be searched, and the specific things to be seized." Searching your living quarters, while it may happen in the field, would be able to be challenged in court, especially if you two had separate leases on the same apartment. I would expect any evidence to be covered under the exclusionary rule, if your living quarters were searched while the warrant specified the warrant was for the search of his residence, and for items X,Y, and Z.

Stop being a stranger!! Happy holidays, brother.

[kelkel]

This turned into made for TV Movie.

[trikydik]

What country are you in? Generally, a search warrant for a specific person at a specific residence, have to be named in the warrant, hence the "specific people to be searched, and the specific things to be seized." Searching your living quarters, while it may happen in the field, would be able to be challenged in court, especially if you two had separate leases on the same apartment. I would expect any evidence to be covered under the exclusionary rule, if your living quarters were searched while the warrant specified the warrant was for the search of his residence, and for items X,Y, and Z.

You have never heard of the "In plain sight" rule have you? If it is present in the house, and the house is being searched, it will be found.

Also search warrants, if for a residence covers the entire residence. They do this so a roommate cannot hide something in the bedroom of another roommate...

Even if you aren't charged, you are not getting the stuff back.

[trikydik]

back to the original topic... are we talking breaking bad?

[Lunk1]

You have never heard of the "In plain sight" rule have you? If it is present in the house, and the house is being searched, it will be found.

Also search warrants, if for a residence covers the entire residence. They do this so a roommate cannot hide something in the bedroom of another roommate...

Even if you aren't charged, you are not getting the stuff back.

To the largest degree Godfather is right. He may have taken things a bit to the extreme end of the exclusionary rule.

The search warrant could not be drawn to include a private area of the OP (like his bedroom) unless specific probable cause existed to do so. The warrant would cover areas controlled by the person or persons listed in the warrant and would cover all common areas that are shared. YES, if the OP left things out in PLAIN VIEW then they would also be seized accordingly.

[thegodfather]

To the largest degree Godfather is right. He may have taken things a bit to the extreme end of the exclusionary rule.

The search warrant could not be drawn to include a private area of the OP (like his bedroom) unless specific probable cause existed to do so. The warrant would cover areas controlled by the person or persons listed in the warrant and would cover all common areas that are shared. YES, if the OP left things out in PLAIN VIEW then they would also be seized accordingly.

Exactly, and to the previous poster, I thought my post indicated that you would lose your gear, which seems fine by the OP, as he is just worried about legal repercussions.

[lovbyts]

In my opinion it has nothing to do with what you may have or not, what you may loose or be charged with or not.

Obviously your brother is involved in something that could potentially get you in trouble if you have gear or not.

If you love your brother then kick him out or you move out and distance yourself from him until he stops such activities.

It's called tough love.

[jsanman]

my suggestion, if you have your own car, make a hidden compartment inside of it, put your stuff inside of there.
but then you run into the problem that you may get searched while on the road. so maybe buy a junker car or a vintage car and just leave it always chilling on your drive way

[DanB]

how much gear are you talking about, if it is substantial then storage units are your best friend......... or find somewhere nice and quiet and bury it in some tubberwear.

[DAAS]

how much gear are you talking about, if it is substantial then storage units are your best friend......... or find somewhere nice and quiet and bury it in some tubberwear.

I mentioned before its only about 20 vials and 4 grams of dbol a gram of adex 20g nolva and 50g clomid

update, things have cooled down a bit, i didnt dump the gear and I plan of living some where else in 3 months