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Originally Posted by iamgodzilla
you can look at my previous threads for my back round story so i wont get in to it to much.
i had low t and no doctors would treat me so i decided to try to restart myself with clomid and tamoxifen
posted are my blood results from 50mg clomid every other day and 20 mg tamoxifen everyday from 8/3/13 to 1/14/14. i am still on this regimen and may stay on for another semester because i have been feeling great and dont want to tamper with my regimen till school is over.
any opinions, questions, feedback?
What were your numbers before?
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Interesting. This is from 50mg eod clomid and 20mg tamox? I read your OP just confirming.
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Estradiol is high but it's not a sensitive assay, therefore not really accurate to males or relevant.
Your shbg is fine.
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I was hoping to do the same when i tried clomid. I was not successful. Good for you though
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why not? It's your own LH as opposed to a false reading ie HCG. I don't think it's high enough to worry about leydig overstimulation but I'd have to do more reading on what it takes to cause that. I have read at least one study where hypogonadal but otherwise healthy males were given 50mg clomid daily for 3 years with no adverse effects. There have been long term HCG studies on males that lasted 3 to 5 years at much higher doses than we talk about here as well.
FSH combined with testosterone is responsible for spermatogenesis, whereas LH is responsible for signaling testosterone production. You're taking two SERMs which explains the high LH. The low FSH is expected as you already know you have hypogonadism. I wouldn't be alarmed at these numbers in your shoes.
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I was on 6 weeks at 25mg eod. It raised total test to 590 which was double but did nothing to free and e2 stayed at 11. I did feel slightly better until it lowered my progesterone levels until I could not sleep.
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the depression is probably from your elevated estrogen. I thought you were going to come off clomid and see if your numbers held?
I'd lower the clomid to 25 EoD if you want to stay on and drop the nolva. This will bring your test to a more reasonable level and drop your estrogen as well.
You should just get off everything now and re-test your bloods in 2 months to see where you're at.
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I'm curious what your free test is
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Clomid and nolvadex have a pretty long half life and stay in your system quite some time. This makes a nice taper as you come back to your natural levels.
You've already been on 6-7 months, I'd just stop now and see where you end up in 6-8 weeks.
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You could wait till semester ends I suppose...
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