bad idea i know however i have come off a eq only cycle at 700mg a week for 12 weeks and gained 9-10lbs lean muscle and dropped 2% b.f with the same diet & training, nothing changed just i added eq. this was 8 weeks ago now and have kept most my gains and recovered fine too with blood work done. so this goes to show eq works for some but maybe not others ! almost gained as good of this as i did 500mg test !!!!!!!! excellent compound IMO !