using the advice of some of the guys....and with the limited funds i have i have decided to run test enth at 500 mg's a week for 8 weeks( i could also do sustanon for that same time period not sure which on would be best ). i excluded the d bol b/c it cost me too much. i just have a couple questions.... one is do you think running test enth for 8 weeks alone is good enuff to expect gains of possibly 10 or more pounds (i realize everyone is different but im just curious as to what to expect) and also how muc clomid should i expect to use? i have heard conflicting reports. im leaning towards taking it for a week at 50 mgs a day but i have heard up to 100 for 2 weeks. also how much liqudex do you guys recommend i get? i appircate the help sorry for all the questuions i read the educational forum...still tryin to get my feet under me, again thanks bros