Doc did not prescribe HCG?

[Maturenewbie]

Hey fellas, I joined the TRT community after having been diagnosed with low t in early January. At the time of BW my t levels were in high 200s. Doc prescribed 200mg/Cyp x week and I've been pinning for 4 weeks now.

Today, before my fifth shot, I went for BW and asked him for HCG and he said he would prescribe Clomid instead. I also picked his brain about AIs and he said if I want he could prescribe Arimidex. I asked him if I begin to feel tenderness on my nipples should I split the dose and he said instead of splitting it I could just take the Adex.

The doc has been cool so far, in terms of listening and answering questions, but I don't know how confident I feel in him since he was dismissive of the HCG and did not seem to agree with the protocol of splitting the dose in order to avoid possible sides of high estrogen.

Or should I not be concern about HCG and just stay on test exclusively? Thanx for the input.

My stats: 37yrs, 185lbs, unk BF (prolly on the low end). Two prior newbie cycles

[BallSak]

Hopefully you're self injecting and can just split the dose anyway. Wait for your blood results before you do anything.

[2Sox]

Hey fellas, I joined the TRT community after having been diagnosed with low t in early January. At the time of BW my t levels were in high 200s. Doc prescribed 200mg/Cyp x week and I've been pinning for 4 weeks now.

Today, before my fifth shot, I went for BW and asked him for HCG and he said he would prescribe Clomid instead. I also picked his brain about AIs and he said if I want he could prescribe Arimidex. I asked him if I begin to feel tenderness on my nipples should I split the dose and he said instead of splitting it I could just take the Adex.

The doc has been cool so far, in terms of listening and answering questions, but I don't know how confident I feel in him since he was dismissive of the HCG and did not seem to agree with the protocol of splitting the dose in order to avoid possible sides of high estrogen.

Or should I not be concern about HCG and just stay on test exclusively? Thanx for the input.

My stats: 37yrs, 185lbs, unk BF (prolly on the low end). Two prior newbie cycles

IMO and in the opinion of many others, starting anyone on 200mg/week is extremely unwise. Most certainly you would have a E2 issue in no time. I'd have my doubts about this doctor's knowledge of TRT. Best practice is to begin low, wait and see and titrate up if necessary. You may want to consider dropping down to 50mg every 3.5 days.

By the way feeling one's nipples is NOT the way to diagnose excessive estradiol levels. You're already in the danger zone by then and will be feeling awful and having other sides. IMO, blood work every six weeks minimum! Make sure it's the "Sensitive" or "Ultrasensitive" assay.

I would suggest you start hCG dosing immediately. 250iu two times a week is pretty standard. If your doc will not write for it, you can purchase it cheaply overseas. That's where I get mine. (I have hard headed doctors too.)

Post your blood work here.

[Maturenewbie]

Thanx 2Sox. I'd drop it down to 50mg every 3.5 days starting next week. Do you think bumping it down five weeks into it would have a negative impact?

I did stress to the doc that I wanted a "sensitive" assay and he said he'd order it and check for estradiol. I'd definitely post my blood work when I get it next week.

[2Sox]

Thanx 2Sox. I'd drop it down to 50mg every 3.5 days starting next week. Do you think bumping it down five weeks into it would have a negative impact?

I did stress to the doc that I wanted a "sensitive" assay and he said he'd order it and check for estradiol. I'd definitely post my blood work when I get it next week.

I believe if you drop down to 100mg weekly, the only side effect is that you'll feel better. I'd wager that you E2 is pretty high by now so lowering your T dose would have an effect on that.

How is your libido? Your energy level?

Are you dosing Adex? If so, how much? What other meds are you taking?

[Maturenewbie]

Energy levels are as good as they can be, given hectic work schedule, but libido is definitely low. Which is surprising because last cycle I did was 200mg Test/100mg Deca x weekly for 12 weeks and the entire time my libido was great.

Currently, the only other med I'm taking is GH at 2IUs/day. I'm not dosing Adex yet, but when I go get my labs next week, I'll ask the doc to give me script and just keep it on hand in case I need it.

[2Sox]

Energy levels are as good as they can be, given hectic work schedule, but libido is definitely low. Which is surprising because last cycle I did was 200mg Test/100mg Deca x weekly for 12 weeks and the entire time my libido was great.

Currently, the only other med I'm taking is GH at 2IUs/day. I'm not dosing Adex yet, but when I go get my labs next week, I'll ask the doc to give me script and just keep it on hand in case I need it.

I'm the wrong guy to ask about "cycling" Deca or HGH. Others more knowledgeable than I about this can comment.

By the way, your low libido is most likely due to a high estradiol level.