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    mass vs cut

    Hello all,

    I hope I can get some answers to my questions here :-)

    I've been training for about 20 years, but there's so many different advises given by so many professional that confuse the he'll out of me.

    Exemple: when u train very heavy (4 to 6) it's for strenght, 8 to 12 is for muscle mass, above that we go into endurance.

    I once asked a coach how to train my arms because they get big with extremely little training. He told me go very heavy (4 to 6) and do very short rests (30 secs)

    Here is the Confusion, if I wasn't to ask him, I would of done the contrary, which is light weight for about 15 to 20 reps and still go like he advised on short rest (30 secs)

    Can I please have some clarifications on that point

    Thanks to all

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    It all depends on ur goals.

    What are ur goals? (Building muscle/increasing strength/endurance?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwarzenegger View Post
    It all depends on ur goals.

    What are ur goals? (Building muscle/increasing strength/endurance?)
    Agree with above.

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    You must also take into account muscle fiber types, type 2b are the ones you want to activate for mass growth. These are recruited during extreme stress.

    To a degree individual genetics also plays an important role.

    The low reps =strength, intermediate =mass, high =endurance, is a good general rule but varies person to person.

    Best advice is if a routine is working --> keep it, if its not working --> replace it.

    How do you know if its working --> mirror.

    -Cheers

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    Agree with the previous replies. You've also got to consider the speed you perform reps at i.e. explosive reps or super slow reps etc. Time under time is an important thing to consider.

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    I'm 6 feet, 225 ... my body type is the kind to gain mass extremely fast.

    My goal is to built lean muscle, cut, without massing up.

    Here's how i work out.

    Chest calves
    Shoulders traps
    Legs calves
    Back traps

    I do triceps on chest day, just one set to failure and biceps on back day, same principal to failure (about 50 to 60 reps).(they get big too quickly reason why I don't overload them)

    I usually stick to 10 reps, medium pace, focusing on flexing the muscle I'm training. Rest 15 seconds, rope 30 to 45 secs, and another 15 to 30 secs rest a d I'm on to the next set

    Only stubborn muscles on my body are traps and calves.

    There, I hope that helps you guys advising me.

    Once again, I want to lean up lean up lean up, and tighten up the muscles. I already have natural mass and pretty good shape. I do not want to put kilos or size on.

    Cheers guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGTOY79 View Post
    I'm 6 feet, 225 ... my body type is the kind to gain mass extremely fast.

    My goal is to built lean muscle, cut, without massing up.

    Here's how i work out.

    Chest calves
    Shoulders traps
    Legs calves
    Back traps

    I do triceps on chest day, just one set to failure and biceps on back day, same principal to failure (about 50 to 60 reps).(they get big too quickly reason why I don't overload them)

    I usually stick to 10 reps, medium pace, focusing on flexing the muscle I'm training. Rest 15 seconds, rope 30 to 45 secs, and another 15 to 30 secs rest a d I'm on to the next set

    Only stubborn muscles on my body are traps and calves.

    There, I hope that helps you guys advising me.

    Once again, I want to lean up lean up lean up, and tighten up the muscles. I already have natural mass and pretty good shape. I do not want to put kilos or size on.

    Cheers guys
    Weight is controlled by diet? and you are asking about training to control mass/cut?

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    Sorry, forgot to mention:

    Yes of take in consideration that diet is well followed.

    Hight protein moderate/low carbs, very very little sugar.

    Cheat meal once a week.

    And to answer of course not, I'm asking the best type of workout to fit my goals.

    By the way, that work out with skipping rope between sets has been started just 10 days ago. I previously use to work out normally (10 reps and 90 secs to 120 secs rest between sets).

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    To be honest, a training scheme for cutting shouldn't really look any different to a normal training scheme, except that there should be increased cardio. It's all diet from there on.

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    Ok then I'm on the right path

    Thanks

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    Thanks kelkel

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