First cycle help.

[Metal_gym_satan71]

Lot to ask, dont want to post a dozen threads so i thought i would do it all in one or at least try... Lol..
Stats :
6'1 278lbs 42 yrs old. Bdf. 20/22% haven't had it checked in a while.
Training and diet :
4 day split routine mix it up weekly from Pyramid to Heavy to Circuit sets. I eat 5-7 small lean protein meals with greens and fruits a day.
Goal: to be in the low 250lb range with low teen bdf %.

I have done pro hormones in the past year and half several cutting cycles with moderate to great results.
I have been told that it is recommend to do straight test e for your first cycle. I am wanting to trim down and afraid that test will bloat me. Although freinds till me u can cut on test e.. But how is that possible? i am also afraid of gyno do to high bdf.

I was thinking tren a and only tren a.

Plan A.
If i do tren a.
What would be the recommended dose an length? I am not sure what the mg/cc ratio is? What is the standard?
Pct? What to use?
What needle size and length?

So if i do test e.
How to i make it as cutting cycle?
What would be the dose and length?
What pct should i do? What dose of pct?
What needle Guage and length?

I was planning to pin my delts, quads also heard u can do triceps as well?

I dont want to stack a bunch of compounds... Two reasons i like to keep things very very simple and dont have major cash to play with... Of course i will get the required /recommend pct...

Sorry for such a long question.. I hope u will have patience with me and lead me down the right path..

Thank you for your help and advice....

[Back In Black]

You really need to do some reading my friend to understand the compounds and what they do to you and how they will affect you at a high bodyfat.

As for your bodyfat, if you are c20%, then you are a beast in terms of lots of muscle for someone who hasn't properly cycled. Can you post a pic so we can have a look?

You can also read this

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[wicked442]

Do ALOT more research before jumping on cycle. You will end up worse off than you are now.
Just by reading your post tells me you have no idea what you are doing. AAS is not a joke or anything to be taken lightly. There is a right way and a wrong way to cycle. Do more research. You have come too far in the last few years not to.

[RangerDanger830]

Whatever you decide to do after you research, tren should not be a part of it at all. I think you need to cut more before starting a cycle.

[Metal_gym_satan71]

OK.. I have done research.
Looking for advice on what iam planning to do.. Wanting insight from other point of views.. I realize that aas is no joke. I do realize it isn't a miracle drug.

[Metal_gym_satan71]

Whatever you decide to do after you research, tren should not be a part of it at all. I think you need to cut more before starting a cycle.

You believe tren won't aid me in cutting

[Metal_gym_satan71]

What I have read higher body fat puts me at higher risk for many things gyno being my bigger fear of the many side effects...
So what would be the ideal bdf

[MuscleInk]

What I have read higher body fat puts me at higher risk for many things gyno being my bigger fear of the many side effects...
So what would be the ideal bdf

What you gain in lean mass or lose in body fat is largely driven by your nutrition plan. Eating above or below your TDEE will determine your results more than your choice of gear.

There are a lot of potential risks with tren. Gyno should be the least of your concern. Tren will affect your BP, lipid metabolism, and glomerular filtration rate in your kidneys more than other anabolics. At a body fat of 20% or greater, the cardiac risks are not favorable and hypertension would be a concern in addition to aberrant lipid metabolism (your LDL will rise and your HDL will drop). Dopamine agonists are also important considerations for tren because the 19nor compounds will affect prolactin levels if estrogen is poorly managed.

Your nutrition should be priority number one. Get that dialed in for a few months and then consider a testosterone only cycle with proper AI, HCG, and PCT. if you are looking to drop bf, have the experts in our nutrition subforum look at your nutrition plan. If you aren't eating below your TDEE it'll be considerably hardly to lose body fat.

[derekkpapa1]

OK.. I have done research.
Looking for advice on what iam planning to do.. Wanting insight from other point of views.. I realize that aas is no joke. I do realize it isn't a miracle drug.

Funny 2 hours after he was told to do some more research he is done!! Wow it took me months

[RangerDanger830]

What you gain in lean mass or lose in body fat is largely driven by your nutrition plan. Eating above or below your TDEE will determine your results more than your choice of gear.

There are a lot of potential risks with tren. Gyno should be the least of your concern. Tren will affect your BP, lipid metabolism, and glomerular filtration rate in your kidneys more than other anabolics. At a body fat of 20% or greater, the cardiac risks are not favorable and hypertension would be a concern in addition to aberrant lipid metabolism (your LDL will rise and your HDL will drop). Dopamine agonists are also important considerations for tren because the 19nor compounds will affect prolactin levels if estrogen is poorly managed.

Your nutrition should be priority number one. Get that dialed in for a few months and then consider a testosterone only cycle with proper AI, HCG, and PCT. if you are looking to drop bf, have the experts in our nutrition subforum look at your nutrition plan. If you aren't eating below your TDEE it'll be considerably hardly to lose body fat.

I second this. Thanks for typing all that so I don't

[chaps]

If you are really 278lbs @ 22% bodyfat you are a monster and should have no issue dropping to 250lbs without roids. My guess is that you're really 30%+ bf and you haven't figured out nutrition yet. You need to eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight, end of story. I'd get a bodpod scan or something to find out what your bf% really is and avoid cycling until you're under 20% to keep the strain off your heart. Otherwise I'd imagine all sorts of blood pressure issues on cycle will probably happen.