Running arimidex while on testE

[Jordan101]

I'm 21 just coming up to my 4th week in my 12 week first test e cycle, Test E 250- 250mg per 1ml, clomid and nolvadex for a month after last pin, my cycle looks like this all twice a week Tuesdays and Fridays, wk1 0.5ml, wk2 0.75ml wk3-wk6 1ml, wk7 1.25ml, wk8 1.25ml, wk9 1ml wk10 1ml, wk11 0.75 wk12 0.5ml. calorie intake is 4000 56%carbs 20%protein 24%fats, current weight 86kg training 6 days a week 4 weight sessions 2 footy trainings and working 10 hour days as a carpenter, will get test levels checked after cycle and if they havnt returned to normal will take hcg, my question is it a good idea to be having arimidex and if so how much? Everyone I've asked has a different opinion, personally I think anything that you can take to avoid getting gyno is a must..

[MuscleInk]

Post your entire cycle. The ml tells us nothing. What is the dose???

If you're cycling without an AI and HCG you are asking for trouble.

Include your PCT plan in the next post.

Have you worked out your caloric intake daily ad is it above or below your TDEE and by how much?

[Jordan101]

Test E 250- 250mg per 1ml, clomid and nolvadex for a month after last pin, my cycle looks like this all twice a week Tuesdays and Fridays, wk1 0.5ml, wk2 0.75ml wk3-wk6 1ml, wk7 1.25ml, wk8 1.25ml, wk9 1ml wk10 1ml, wk11 0.75 wk12 0.5ml. calorie intake is 4000 56%carbs 20%protein 24%fats, current weight 86

[Jordan101]

And will get my test levels checked again after cycle and if they havnt returned to normal
Il take hcg

[MuscleInk]

Test E 250- 250mg per 1ml, clomid and nolvadex for a month after last pin, my cycle looks like this all twice a week Tuesdays and Fridays, wk1 0.5ml, wk2 0.75ml wk3-wk6 1ml, wk7 1.25ml, wk8 1.25ml, wk9 1ml wk10 1ml, wk11 0.75 wk12 0.5ml. calorie intake is 4000 56%carbs 20%protein 24%fats, current weight 86

No need to titrate doses. The most common first cycle is testosterone alone, 500mg/wk split as two doses, (250mg x2 a week) for 12 weeks.

Your cycle should include HCG to prevent your leydig cells from shutting down and atrophying and since these leydig cells assist in the production of intratesticular testosterone, you should be cycling properly to minimize this shut down.

An AI should be used on cycle. You don't keep it on hand; you USE it. AIs reduce aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. Rising levels of estrogen create risks for peripheral artery disease, DVTs, blood clots, stroke, and prostate disease to name a few. GET AN AI. USE IT!

PCT starts 14-18 days after your last injection. NOT a month after.

4000 calories may be too much. What is your TDEE? How did you decide on 4000/day? Looks like way too many carbs - unless your goal is to increase fat.

READ THIS:

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

A lot of things need work here and at 21, you may be one of several guys whose testicles/HTPA don't work post cycle. Then you'll be stuck trying to deal with depression, erectile dysfunction, no sex drive, and other not so fun issues. Plenty of guys your age as members here desperately seeking help to fix the endocrine system they screwed with.

[Jordan101]

Ok then thanks,I wasn't going to wait a month before pct, my TDEE is 2865 calories a day, I used my fitness pal to calculate my calories of 4000 and the pt I was seeing told my to eat around 4000 because I was finding it hard to put on size and with having a physical job, with hcg how do I go about running that through my cycle? all I have been told is if my test levels havnt returned that I should pin hcg into my stomach fat to return levels to normal, I don't want to be stuck with issues like that, from what I was told is that if I use clomid and Novladex for pct and take arimidex during cycle that I should be fine, now I'm not so sure..

[Jordan101]

and if I want to stop my cycle from right now do I still need pct?

[MuscleInk]

Ok then thanks,I wasn't going to wait a month before pct, my TDEE is 2865 calories a day, I used my fitness pal to calculate my calories of 4000 and the pt I was seeing told my to eat around 4000 because I was finding it hard to put on size and with having a physical job, with hcg how do I go about running that through my cycle? all I have been told is if my test levels havnt returned that I should pin hcg into my stomach fat to return levels to normal, I don't want to be stuck with issues like that, from what I was told is that if I use clomid and Novladex for pct and take arimidex during cycle that I should be fine, now I'm not so sure..

I would think 3500 calories would be plenty. Nothing wrong with more food as long as your gains are LBM and not fat. Remember, this is a marathon, not a race. Growing takes TIME.

HCG is best run during your cycle. Running it after your cycle can prevent your LH from restarting and lead to a longer recovery.

There is no guarantee of a full recovery. You can do everything correctly and remain suppressed after a cycle. Several members between 18-23 on this forum cycled properly and didn't recover. Some of those are now on TRT for life.

I don't want to leave you with the impression that you will have problems. It's a possibility and among younger guys, our concern is that while your HTPA is still developing, shutting it down may lead to long term problems.

You are correct, cycling on and off, using HCG and an AI and a properly run PCT will improve the chances of a good recovery - but there is no guarantee once you start changing the normal levels of hormones in your body.

[MuscleInk]

and if I want to stop my cycle from right now do I still need pct?

If you've run four weeks, yes, you should run a proper 4 week PCT.

[Jordan101]

Thanks for all the help mate, what would a four week pct look like?

[MuscleInk]

Thanks for all the help mate, what would a four week pct look like?

Clomid: 75/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/20/20/20

The above represents daily doses, per week.

So......

Week 1: 75mg clomid + 40mg nolva daily
Week 2: 50mg clomid + 20mg nolva daily
Week 3: 50mg clomid + 20mg nolva daily
Week 4: 50mg clomid + 20mg nolva daily

[Jordan101]

No worries cheers, so if you ran a 12 week cycle then your pct would be 12 weeks aswell then?

[Back In Black]

No, your PCT would be the same. As your cycle is, in all honesty, a complete mess you should get out know. Lower the risk of current and future side effects and do some educating. Seriously, another 8 weeks on isn't worth the potential risk for the rest of your life.

Good luck

[Jordan101]

will I still need hcg? I've only done 3 weeks of pinning..

[Back In Black]

will I still need hcg? I've only done 3 weeks of pinning..

No, not if you are stopping now.

[Jordan101]

Cheers mate appreciate the help