Recent Bloodwork: Good Estrogen Level poor symptoms?

[Ccdiesel]

T: 1150
E: 26

Dosing
70mg test c 450 iu HCG twice a week.

Any vets have insight as to what else I need to look at if the macro numbers for t and e are okay yet libido is not like it used to be and no night time erections/not great morning erections?

Thanks

[frawnz]

You'll probably need to post your full blood-work results for better insight. Also, what/when are you comparing to in regards to libido not being like it used to be? I've ranged all over the spectrum with my TRT history, but I've never had the libido I had when I was a teenager. I also don't get significant morning wood, unless I am taking melanotan II. Then it's like constant whenever I'm laying down, and not exactly what I would describe as enjoyable!

[Ccdiesel]

COLLECTED:2014/02/25 07:01
RECEIVED:2014/02/25 11:19
REPORTED:2014/02/27 07:10

Result
WBC
RBC
Hemoglobin
Hematocrit
MCV
MCH
MCHC
RDW
Platelets
Neutrophils
Lymphs
Monocytes
Eos
Basos
Neutrophils (Absolute)
Lymphs (Absolute)
Monocytes(Absolute)
Eos (Absolute)
Baso (Absolute)
Immature Granulocytes
Immature Grans (Abs)
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum
BUN
Creatinine, Serum
eGFR If NonAfricn Am
eGFR If Africn Am
BUN/Creatinine Ratio
Sodium, Serum
Potassium, Serum
Chloride, Serum
Carbon Dioxide, Total
Calcium, Serum
Protein, Total, Serum
Albumin, Serum
Globulin, Total
A/G Ratio
Bilirubin, Total
Alkaline Phosphatase, S
AST (SGOT)
ALT (SGPT)
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH
FSH, Serum
FSH
Estradiol
Estradiol
5.3
5.98
18.2
52.7
88
30.4
34.5
13.5
119
44
45
8
3
0
2.3
2.4
0.4
0.2
0.0
0
0.0
92
23
1.25
78
91
18
143
4.5
102
25
9.6
7.2
4.8
2.4
2.0
0.8
50
14
17
1160
0.1
<0.2
26.3

[Ccdiesel]

Sorry I'll try to edit that so it's readable but I do not think there is enough info with regard to libido issues.

My libido was the same until I turned 26, it was horrible then but t numbers were low. Immediately after I started injections I felt normal again with regard to libido and erections. Now not so great. Just curious if there are other metrics used to monitor that I've overlooked. Estrogen was not high, but maybe to high for me?

And yes I did enjoy my almost constant erections haha.

[roxer]

I don't think there is adequate science to explain all of this yet. My numbers are what most believe to be "in the zone", but I have the same problem and have to take 5mg of tadalafil daily to be anywhere near consistent. My libido is definitely there, no problems. My pre-workout (no shotgun) helps too as I notice severe night wood after a workout. I just get problems with the member doing its part.

I think elevated blood pressure can be an issue. I have noticed good wood for a short period after giving blood. I just wish there was decent evidence to point to specifics so this could be easily corrected. Until then I have to keep my Indian supplier happy in the dough.

[Ccdiesel]

I don't think there is adequate science to explain all of this yet. My numbers are what most believe to be "in the zone", but I have the same problem and have to take 5mg of tadalafil daily to be anywhere near consistent. My libido is definitely there, no problems. My pre-workout (no shotgun) helps too as I notice severe night wood after a workout. I just get problems with the member doing its part.

I think elevated blood pressure can be an issue. I have noticed good wood for a short period after giving blood. I just wish there was decent evidence to point to specifics so this could be easily corrected. Until then I have to keep my Indian supplier happy in the dough.

Well that's what I was hoping I wouldn't get for a response. If bloodwork is on point I would not expect lousy sexual side effects with all positive physical effects. Something has to be off, I just don't know what.

[theseus]

your Hb is >18 and your Hct is >0.52; I suggest venesection or blood donation

when your blood is too thick, it increases your risk of stroke

but also, it might have a negative impact on your erection both from blood flow and oxygenation point of view.

[Ccdiesel]

your Hb is >18 and your Hct is >0.52; I suggest venesection or blood donation

when your blood is too thick, it increases your risk of stroke

but also, it might have a negative impact on your erection both from blood flow and oxygenation point of view.

Will lowering my dose reduce that on its own? Or blood donation is a must. It's only slightly elevated since before trt started.

[vmons01]

I was in the same boat, perfectly dialed in but had libido and mild ed issues. At the time my TT was at 830 and my E2 was at 20. I tried two things, not sure which one worked yet? I tested my DHEA, which came in at the very bottom of the range, so I started supplementing with 50mg 3 times a week. I also reduced my Test dosage to bring my levels down to the 700's. Either way, my issues, which I had for a year or so, cleared up in a week. I'm thinking of going back though because my libido is a little too high now!!

[Ccdiesel]

I was in the same boat, perfectly dialed in but had libido and mild ed issues. At the time my TT was at 830 and my E2 was at 20. I tried two things, not sure which one worked yet? I tested my DHEA, which came in at the very bottom of the range, so I started supplementing with 50mg 3 times a week. I also reduced my Test dosage to bring my levels down to the 700's. Either way, my issues, which I had for a year or so, cleared up in a week. I'm thinking of going back though because my libido is a little too high now!!

I'm dropping my t dose now to see if that changes anything. But I have waited incentive before in between injections and let t levels drop. I noticed no difference.

Of course my t levels were very low pre trt and I still had no libido issues. Definitely a complicated system.

[vmons01]

Me too, pre TRT I was at 250 and still had an ok libido, not awesome, but not too bad. I think it's the DHEA personally, in my case that is. I test myself a lot, like every month. I used to do E2 every month but since I'm dialed in I don't do E2. Now I keep an eye out for HGB/HCT and DHEA.

[Ccdiesel]

Me too, pre TRT I was at 250 and still had an ok libido, not awesome, but not too bad. I think it's the DHEA personally, in my case that is. I test myself a lot, like every month. I used to do E2 every month but since I'm dialed in I don't do E2. Now I keep an eye out for HGB/HCT and DHEA.

Thanks for the input I'll test dhea and do some more research.