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    First Cycle Feedback

    Thank you in advance, I am sure that you guys get a ton of these "First Cycle Help" post and I thank you for taking the time to read my post. I have done research on this site and on several other websites, I have also talked to people at the gym, and discussed what a first cycle should look like. I have never cycled before and I want to do it safely and effectively. I ran my blood work and everything was “fine” according to my doctor. I have been researching for months now and am a bit hesitant, because some serious damage can be done if your not careful. I am 24 years old. I have been training since I was sixteen. I have never trained less than four times a week since I was sixteen and I average 5-6 training sessions a week. I currently weigh 192.2. Im 5'9 and my body fat is 14.8% I can bench 285 for one rep, and dead-lift 420 for three reps and squat 315 for one rep. My diet is clean, I hired a nutritionist to help me. Although, I’m hesitant, I finally came across a reliable connect. I have finally made the decision to take two substances D-bol and Test-Sust. I was thinking of running Test-sust at 500 mg a week for 12 weeks, and running D-bol at 15mg a day for four weeks. I wanted to do a low dosage of d-bol because of the toxicity it has on the liver. I'm hesitant to take an oral for D-bol but would like to know, if anyone could give me feedback on any good liver supports while, Im on this cycle. Post cycle therapy, I'm going to run Novaldex and HCG. While I'm running dbol and test, Im thinking of using a liver support called "liver care", unless you guys can suggest something better. Hope you all have a good day and thanks for taking the time to look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realtalk1990
    Thank you in advance, I am sure that you guys get a ton of these "First Cycle Help" post and I thank you for taking the time to read my post. I have done research on this site and on several other websites, I have also talked to people at the gym, and discussed what a first cycle should look like. I have never cycled before and I want to do it safely and effectively. I ran my blood work and everything was “fine” according to my doctor. I have been researching for months now and am a bit hesitant, because some serious damage can be done if your not careful. I am 24 years old. I have been training since I was sixteen. I have never trained less than four times a week since I was sixteen and I average 5-6 training sessions a week. I currently weigh 192.2. Im 5'9 and my body fat is 14.8% I can bench 285 for one rep, and dead-lift 420 for three reps and squat 315 for one rep. My diet is clean, I hired a nutritionist to help me. Although, I’m hesitant, I finally came across a reliable connect. I have finally made the decision to take two substances D-bol and Test-Sust. I was thinking of running Test-sust at 500 mg a week for 12 weeks, and running D-bol at 15mg a day for four weeks. I wanted to do a low dosage of d-bol because of the toxicity it has on the liver. I'm hesitant to take an oral for D-bol but would like to know, if anyone could give me feedback on any good liver supports while, Im on this cycle. Post cycle therapy, I'm going to run Novaldex and HCG. While I'm running dbol and test, Im thinking of using a liver support called "liver care", unless you guys can suggest something better. Hope you all have a good day and thanks for taking the time to look.
    Start here:

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

    Testosterone only for first cycle.

    You need an aromatase inhibitor during your cycle.

    HCG is used ON cycle. Post cycle use can suppress or attenuate recovery.

    PCT should include nolvadex and clomid

    Check the nutrition section. It's great having a nutritionist to improve your diet but does he/she know how many calories above your TDEE are needed to gain and then maintain muscle growth?

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    I'm so tempted to take D-Bol, but I will take the knowledgeable advise of the experienced members here and do a test only cycle. Thank you for verifying when HCG should be used, I have seen and read so many debates about when HCG should be utilized, that I was really mixed up, I appreciate your feedback and will check in with my nutritionist tomorrow.

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    I doubt one cycle of dbol at 15mg a day for 4 weeks will do much damage to your liver, but if you want liver support, I hear UDCA or TUDCA is the way to go. Never taken it myself. Just what I read.

    Sticking with test only is recommended so that you can see how you react to compounds one at a time. And when you consider that a common dose for dbol is 50 mg a day, 15mg a day really isn't gonna do a whole lot.

    Personally, I prefer not to go with blends likes sustanon. IMO sustanon is so popular bc people hear "4 types of test in 1" and think that its better for some reason. Kind of gimmicky. Test Cyp or Enanthate are easier to dose and keep your blood levels stable. And I prefer not using sustanon because you need to wait a minimum of 18 days after your last shot to start pct. It might just be in my head, but psychologically I feel like I'm backtracking or possibly even loosing gains the longer I go without a shot before starting pct.

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