Frustrated and need advice.

**hollyroid84** · 04-12-2014, 07:56 AM

Hey guys, I'm 29 years old I currently weigh 188 lbs and I am in between 7 and 8% body fat. I have ran 2 cycles of test unsuccessfully in the past 3 years. I've ran 2 cycles of prohormones with more success in the past 4 years. I just recently got off a 14 week test/deca cycle at 600/350. I finished my last day of nolva that was ran 40/40/20/20 and had igf1lr3 thrown in there and today I weighed exactly the same as when I started the cycle. I got up to 208 lbs, is it possible that it was all water and I literally made no gains? I'm thinking about not doing cycles anymore because I never keep any of my gains. Any advice would be appreciated.

**hollyroid84** · 04-12-2014, 07:59 AM

I should add diet, I ate around 3500 calories per day. I will add my job is pretty active, I walk on average 7 miles a day at least, and a lot of days it tracks up to 10 miles.
Thanks

**BallSak** · 04-12-2014, 08:33 AM

You are not going to gain muscle eating at a deficit. 3500 is simply not enough if you're doing 7-10 miles a day.

**against_grain** · 04-12-2014, 08:42 AM

Can you post photos? did your strength increase? Any cycles of test I have run lead to fast, significant gains in muscle mass!

Have you confirmed you have legit gear? with blood work perhaps?

If you are training, and running a full cycle and gaining NO muscle I personally would be suspect about the gear.

**RangerDanger830** · 04-12-2014, 11:22 AM

I second the bunk gear theory, if you have ruled out your gear then the only other smoking gun here is your diet. A lot of people say they eat enough but the proof is in the gains that are made or not made. At 208lbs and a decent BF% your TDEE is going to be high after gym time and an active job.

**FapOLantern** · 04-12-2014, 02:58 PM

What do you mean "unsuccessful" test cycles? Are you using the same UGL/ source? Sounds like underdosed gear. Did you have bloodwork done? This may be tricky, because using clomid/nolva will in fact increase serum testosterone by stimulating the pituitary to make more LH, which stimulates the testes to make more testosterone. Most males may have levels of T into the 1000's after Clomid/Nolva therapy.

I say underdosed and not bunk because you got water retention from the stuff you took. What lab is it?

**hollyroid84** · 04-16-2014, 03:49 PM

Yes, I had huge increases in strength, im guessing its got to be a diet issue. Is there a good way to find out how much I would need to gain muscle?
Ive used different labs every run, I gain a ton of weight and lose all of it everytime. It's very odd. Ill try to get some pics on here.