First cycle please help!!!

[liamfresh]

I want to do a test e cycle of 12 weeks. i want to do this cycle as I'm finding it really hard to lose fat after a 2 year bulk and want to be more anti-catabolic so i can do more cardio and have less calories without it affecting my muscle gains.

some quick stats of mine:
age: 21
years training: 3
%bf at the moment: 16-19%
desired bf% after cycle: 6-7% very lean/shredded

i have a very solid diet hitting all necessary marcos and solid training.

I was considering 500mg of test e a week for 12 weeks, followed by pct of nolva/comid and maybe hcg

Is this the right type of cycle for more goals?

Can you please help me with anything i have missed or need to remember as well as your recommendations.

Thank you

[David LoPan]

You are still to young for steroids. You can do more harm than good at your age. You need to work on your diet and workout. You can reach your goals all natty. http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

[simonnp]

I agree with bigtahl, first off, this cycle will not make you lose 10% bodyfat. Steroids help in assisting you with your gains, but if you don't have a proper diet, proper routine, and proper sleep, you will not reach your goal. I think you should try hardcore dieting (counting your calories and macros), and doing intense sessions of cardio to lower your bodyfat naturally then if you still want to, then take steroids. This is just my advice to you.

[clarkey02]

Come back in 5 years.

[VegasBody]

U will not get shredded by taking some testosterone
No 10% will fall off of u
Abs are made in the kitchen not in the gym
Get your diet in check and u can get there naturally with good diet and cardio
It will not be easy but it can be done

[liamfresh]

it will be test only and im only going to do this one cycle(i know people say that alot but i mean it). i just want to get to a better place were i can have some pride in my body and then use all ive leant to continue making progress naturally

[liamfresh]

I agree with bigtahl, first off, this cycle will not make you lose 10% bodyfat. Steroids help in assisting you with your gains, but if you don't have a proper diet, proper routine, and proper sleep, you will not reach your goal. I think you should try hardcore dieting (counting your calories and macros), and doing intense sessions of cardio to lower your bodyfat naturally then if you still want to, then take steroids. This is just my advice to you.

i know the actual test wont make me lose 10% but it will make me more anti-catabolic allowing me to have less calories and do more cadio without sacrificing muscle. i do have a proper diet, training and sleep it just makes more sense to me to do a cycle and keep my muscle while cutting, rarther than to cut naturally and lose muscle and then cycle. what are you thoughts on this?

[Cone]

it will be test only and im only going to do this one cycle(i know people say that alot but i mean it). i just want to get to a better place were i can have some pride in my body and then use all ive leant to continue making progress naturally

You should listen to the advice of the guys on this site, I did one cycle of PH when I was younger and gained a lot, lost it all after cycle because I didn't understand how important diet was until recently, and now I've gained more in the last 8month of 100% calculated dieting and training than I ever would using substances that aid it with poop diet.

I can also tell you that I thought 1 cycle wouldn't hurt and ended up with many problems after such as I have gyno from a 4 week cycle which was the lightest part of my problems, I got ED my main man wouldn't get hard for about 6month until my body rebounded from the cycle that "wouldn't hurt" I was lucky who had a mrs who stayed with me through it.

Think about your future self and keep yourself safe give the body time to develop naturally.

You probably won't listen to what I have to cycle anyway, but I can tell you, later in life you will regret it, I'm only 19 and I cycled 2 years ago and I have no doubt in my mind if I could turn back time I would.

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[liamfresh]

Come back in 5 years.

in 5 years i wont need to cycle. i just want to get to a stage where i dont look like sh*t. i want to do this cycle(the only cycle i will ever do) so im in better standings with my physique and then can move on and make progress naturally.

[liamfresh]

You should listen to the advice of the guys on this site, I did one cycle of PH when I was younger and gained a lot, lost it all after cycle because I didn't understand how important diet was until recently, and now I've gained more in the last 8month of 100% calculated dieting and training than I ever would using substances that aid it with poop diet.

I can also tell you that I thought 1 cycle wouldn't hurt and ended up with many problems after such as I have gyno from a 4 week cycle which was the lightest part of my problems, I got ED my main man wouldn't get hard for about 6month until my body rebounded from the cycle that "wouldn't hurt" I was lucky who had a mrs who stayed with me through it.

Think about your future self and keep yourself safe give the body time to develop naturally.

You probably won't listen to what I have to cycle anyway, but I can tell you, later in life you will regret it, I'm only 19 and I cycled 2 years ago and I have no doubt in my mind if I could turn back time I would.

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i am taking everyones advice into consideration and hopefully there is more
i was going to hire a coach to help me with it, so that all risks can be minimised. i will also get all my pct and cycle support on hand before the cycle to also reduce risks/side effects.

going into a cycle like yours is welcoming negative side effects but going into with the proper guidance and knowledge is totally different. i have put a lot of thought in to it and im not being impulsive. can you see what im trying to say?

[liamfresh]

[QUOTE=BigTahl;6856886]You are still to young for steroids. You can do more harm than good at your age. You need to work on your diet and workout. You can reach your goals all natty.


if it is only test and only once, will it still do harm? taking into consideration proper pct and cycle support?

[thephoenix25]

[QUOTE=liamfresh;6857361]

You are still to young for steroids. You can do more harm than good at your age. You need to work on your diet and workout. You can reach your goals all natty.


if it is only test and only once, will it still do harm? taking into consideration proper pct and cycle support?

Even if you were a fully developed 30 y/o man, a test only cycle just once could do irreparable damage, there are no guarantees. Cycling at a young age increases the chances of damage substantially. Sorry bud, you really should wait.

[Cone]

i am taking everyones advice into consideration and hopefully there is more i was going to hire a coach to help me with it, so that all risks can be minimised. i will also get all my pct and cycle support on hand before the cycle to also reduce risks/side effects. going into a cycle like yours is welcoming negative side effects but going into with the proper guidance and knowledge is totally different. i have put a lot of thought in to it and im not being impulsive. can you see what im trying to say?

As has already been said, no matter how safe/prepared you are there is still a chance you can shut yourself down permenently, I was prepared I ran with a AI and I also ran a PCT that doesn't mean your 100% guaranteed to come back.

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[liamfresh]

As has already been said, no matter how safe/prepared you are there is still a chance you can shut yourself down permenently, I was prepared I ran with a AI and I also ran a PCT that doesn't mean your 100% guaranteed to come back.

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did you really take every precaution? was there anything else you coud/needed to do? just find it hard to believe as so many people cycle and use basic pct and are fine

[thephoenix25]

Maybe try to think about it this way :

If you did a cycle against the advice and under the safe age and it was successful and you came through it unharmed, you'd want people to know how well you did.

Now consider...

If your cycle screwed up your endocrine system and left you with permanent ED, you'd be less likely to be telling everyone how well you did.

So you hear all the success stories and none of the failures. Sounds like Cone had a lucky break and managed to pull through it, many are not so lucky.

[liamfresh]

Maybe try to think about it this way :

If you did a cycle against the advice and under the safe age and it was successful and you came through it unharmed, you'd want people to know how well you did.

Now consider...

If your cycle screwed up your endocrine system and left you with permanent ED, you'd be less likely to be telling everyone how well you did.

So you hear all the success stories and none of the failures. Sounds like Cone had a lucky break and managed to pull through it, many are not so lucky.

so what if i was 25 is there really that much difference between cycling at 21 opposed to 25?

[Cone]

did you really take every precaution? was there anything else you coud/needed to do? just find it hard to believe as so many people cycle and use basic pct and are fine

I know a lot of people are fine and happy, I am simply warning you of what can happen it's a risk and with everything in life you should weigh up the 2 options for everything, Risk vs Reward.

I took every precortion I could and ran a "safe" cycle but I was unlucky and it took me 6month of recovery I was Around people my age who had run cycles and been "good" but who knows whether they tell me the truth or are scared to admit they are doing bad with ED.

Like mentioned you hear alot of good.
but who will walk around the gym bragging about having low test, gyno and ED really?

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[thephoenix25]

so what if i was 25 is there really that much difference between cycling at 21 opposed to 25?

Look in the mirror and then compare what you see to yourself at age 17, those are just the changes visible on the outside. There is a lot more going on on the inside. There you have an example of developmental changes occurring in 4 years.

Read this for more info
http://forums.steroid.com/educationa...-steroids.html

Honestly man, its your call. You might be ok, you may end up very unhappy and regret what you did. Really, I'd wait, 4 years isn't that long to wait, whereas 64 years (or the rest of your life) is a hell of a long time to live with a mistake you made in the first quarter of your life.

[Black]

Steroids are most effective when you've built a nice foundation of mature muscle, have the proper nutrition (from experience) and effectively train to stimulate the muscle fibers to the fullest extent.

You haven't learned any of that yet. You are going to run a 12 week cycle and FEEL good the duration of the cycle. Then, when you are done, you are going to revert to your current self. All while taking major risks with your future health.

You sound dead set on this, so do me a favor and come back here to report how it was not a success.

[VegasBody]

So after all these ppl telling U dont
......U will do it i have no doubt in my mind
If u do it pls read all the articles how to do it properly

[VegasBody]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[liamfresh]

So after all these ppl telling U dont
......U will do it i have no doubt in my mind
If u do it pls read all the articles how to do it properly

just because i didnt fold straight away dosent mean i didnt take everyones advice to heart
after alot of thought ive figured waiting a few years isnt so bad

time to do a gruelling natty cut i guess

[fit2bOld]

That's it buddy determination and hard work. Nutrition will get you there. Hit the nutrition forum those guys are awesome.